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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3809497" data-attributes="member: 2525">Because with a high enough spot check, a large enough target, and circumstance bonuses (like knowing the character went in that direction), you can hit things at 1000 feet.Who said that? There is a maximum distance for any given character and target and circumstances, but given the right character and target and circumstances it can extend quite far (particularly with a spy glass, if you choose the interpretation I suggested).Most folks I know that take far shot use it for things with a shorter range to begin with (like a dagger).&nbsp; It would be pretty silly to take far shot with a composite longbow, as you cannot see the target, and frankly even if you could the opportunity to have a target that far is so rare that it would be a waste of a feat.It does.&nbsp; It's in the spot rules, and the chart for DCs for skills, and the DMG. Tell me, what does DC 0 to notice a large object in plain sight mean to you, if there is no need to hit a DC at all? How can there be any question that you need to roll a spot check for things in plain sight, once you saw that chart?And I'll ask again...can your character notice an ant in plain view 1000 yards away? If not, why not, given you believe there are no rolls necessary to spot something in plain view, regardless of distance and size?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3809497, member: 2525"] Because with a high enough spot check, a large enough target, and circumstance bonuses (like knowing the character went in that direction), you can hit things at 1000 feet. Who said that? There is a maximum distance for any given character and target and circumstances, but given the right character and target and circumstances it can extend quite far (particularly with a spy glass, if you choose the interpretation I suggested). Most folks I know that take far shot use it for things with a shorter range to begin with (like a dagger). It would be pretty silly to take far shot with a composite longbow, as you cannot see the target, and frankly even if you could the opportunity to have a target that far is so rare that it would be a waste of a feat. It does. It's in the spot rules, and the chart for DCs for skills, and the DMG. Tell me, what does DC 0 to notice a large object in plain sight mean to you, if there is no need to hit a DC at all? How can there be any question that you need to roll a spot check for things in plain sight, once you saw that chart? And I'll ask again...can your character notice an ant in plain view 1000 yards away? If not, why not, given you believe there are no rolls necessary to spot something in plain view, regardless of distance and size? [/QUOTE]

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