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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3823596" data-attributes="member: 1656">She already answered that - she considers the spyglass to halve the distance penalty.  So it would be a DC 21 - DC 16, plus half the -10 penalty for distance.The furthest the encounter with the large object could begin is 300 feet.  Once his attention has been drawn to it, he can see it from further away.The human commoner all by himself might only notice the ogre 200 feet away.  But if he's with the elf scout, and the elf scout notices the ogre 350 feet away and says "Look, an ogre!", the commoner can look where he's pointing and say "Hey, I think you're right.  You've got good eyes - I never would have noticed that!"He can see things further away than the Spot check for him to begin the encounter can succeed.-Hyp.</blockquote>