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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8086197" data-attributes="member: 12731">5th Edition makes it way too easy to have an all-darkvision party.Yes you have always been able to create an all-Dwarf party in every edition, but previously that came with a heavy cost in group diversity.In 5E, just avoid humans and halflings.Replace the classic party of Human, Halfling, Elf and Dwarf with Half-Elf, Gnome, Elf and Dwarf, and you gain significant advantages at low-level.I really hope Level Up brings back low-level vision in order to significantly reduce the number of Darkvision races.And please don't provide easy access to Darkvision to many of the races without!In my opinion, there should be no immediate or easy way for the classic party of Human, Halfling, Elf and Dwarf to avoid carrying light with them.In particular, don't follow in Pathfinder 2's foot-steps, where Humans can access the ancestry feats of any other race, and where the obvious power choice for Elves is to play Cavern Elves (like Drow except without drawbacks: no light sensitivity, no evil alignment). On paper darkvision is much less common in PF2 than in 5E. In practical play, getting darkvision is so good (having to occupy one hand to hold a torch is a crippling requirement for most warriors) and so cheap the situation is just as bad there as in 5E.</blockquote>