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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8504941" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>nuTSR seems to have a lot of different ideas that they're trying to use all at once about how the copyright/trademark laws work.</p><p></p><p>I think they're simultaneously trying to argue that since Wizards abandoned the TSR trademark registration anyone who registers a TSR trademark gets the rights to the artwork. And since they're the registered trademark owner that means they should get all the rights transferred over to them. But also they're trying to get the artists who created the artwork on board to claim that it wasn't "work for hire" for old TSR but is instead owned by them - and that they've transferred the rights over to nuTSR.</p><p></p><p>IANAL but I know enough about copyright/trademark laws to know that the first half of that is utter and complete nonsense. Copyright doesn't follow trademark registration and right now Wizards and nuTSR are in a trademark dispute anyway - registering a trademark isn't sufficient if someone is already using it in commerce and Wizards has been using the TSR mark in commerce for a while now. The second part - arguing that the artwork was not work for hire - might have more merit depending on circumstances, but I'd imagine it's going to be a tough slog to prove that a logo wasn't contracted on a work for hire basis. And even then what it does is put the artwork back into the hands of the artists who created it, not into nuTSR's hands.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8504941, member: 19857"] nuTSR seems to have a lot of different ideas that they're trying to use all at once about how the copyright/trademark laws work. I think they're simultaneously trying to argue that since Wizards abandoned the TSR trademark registration anyone who registers a TSR trademark gets the rights to the artwork. And since they're the registered trademark owner that means they should get all the rights transferred over to them. But also they're trying to get the artists who created the artwork on board to claim that it wasn't "work for hire" for old TSR but is instead owned by them - and that they've transferred the rights over to nuTSR. IANAL but I know enough about copyright/trademark laws to know that the first half of that is utter and complete nonsense. Copyright doesn't follow trademark registration and right now Wizards and nuTSR are in a trademark dispute anyway - registering a trademark isn't sufficient if someone is already using it in commerce and Wizards has been using the TSR mark in commerce for a while now. The second part - arguing that the artwork was not work for hire - might have more merit depending on circumstances, but I'd imagine it's going to be a tough slog to prove that a logo wasn't contracted on a work for hire basis. And even then what it does is put the artwork back into the hands of the artists who created it, not into nuTSR's hands. [/QUOTE]
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