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<blockquote data-quote="Wayside" data-source="post: 2275483" data-attributes="member: 8394"><p>That's where I disagree. Well, not with the heavy-handed symbolism, because I do agree that that was a pretty weak move on Lucas' part. But a dark side power that can spontaneously induce pregnancy in women being somehow "cooler"--I disagree with <em>that</em>. All arguments aside--the fact that Palpatine says Plagueis had the power to manipulate midichlorians and prevent death, not create life, say--in itself the concept is still amazingly cheesey, and much like the idea of midichlorians in the first place, doesn't jive with the feel of <em>Star Wars</em> (and by <em>Star Wars</em> I mean the movies, not the campy fanfic sometimes referred to as the EU).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing short of Lucas' word or an authenticated copy of that draft would convince me of this; not, of course, that it matters, since it isn't in the movie anyway. Lots of things change in drafts (hell, you write books, you already know this), and the <em>fact</em> that they've been changed is all the evidence we need to say that they're now <em>incorrect</em> interpretations. At one point Luke was a girl, Anakin's name was Starkiller, Vader wasn't Luke's father, and a thousand other things were different; including, <em>possibly</em>, an attempt to write Palpatine as Anakin's creator. But all these things were written out--and this isn't an argument for Palpatine being, in effect, Anakin's father <em>in the movie as we have it</em>. Drafts are great for us curious folks who like to see things evolve, but as far as the story goes the fact that Lucas wrote this explanation out is more of an argument <em>that it is incorrect</em> than that it is correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wayside, post: 2275483, member: 8394"] That's where I disagree. Well, not with the heavy-handed symbolism, because I do agree that that was a pretty weak move on Lucas' part. But a dark side power that can spontaneously induce pregnancy in women being somehow "cooler"--I disagree with [I]that[/I]. All arguments aside--the fact that Palpatine says Plagueis had the power to manipulate midichlorians and prevent death, not create life, say--in itself the concept is still amazingly cheesey, and much like the idea of midichlorians in the first place, doesn't jive with the feel of [I]Star Wars[/I] (and by [I]Star Wars[/I] I mean the movies, not the campy fanfic sometimes referred to as the EU). Nothing short of Lucas' word or an authenticated copy of that draft would convince me of this; not, of course, that it matters, since it isn't in the movie anyway. Lots of things change in drafts (hell, you write books, you already know this), and the [I]fact[/I] that they've been changed is all the evidence we need to say that they're now [I]incorrect[/I] interpretations. At one point Luke was a girl, Anakin's name was Starkiller, Vader wasn't Luke's father, and a thousand other things were different; including, [I]possibly[/I], an attempt to write Palpatine as Anakin's creator. But all these things were written out--and this isn't an argument for Palpatine being, in effect, Anakin's father [I]in the movie as we have it[/I]. Drafts are great for us curious folks who like to see things evolve, but as far as the story goes the fact that Lucas wrote this explanation out is more of an argument [I]that it is incorrect[/I] than that it is correct. [/QUOTE]
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