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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Welverin" data-source="post: 2268372" data-attributes="member: 433">What you don't seem to be taking into consideration is that Mace is up there with Yoda as far as Jedi goes, which means he's much better than the other scrubs. Note the two no names got taken out instantly and Kit lasted a little longer, Mace then held his own well before Anakin showed up.Let's not forget how easily Obi-Wan handled it in Ep2, and Yoda all over the place, so the notion Palpy could have easily defeat Mace just using the force to defeat one of the two leading members of the Jedi Council sounds like a terrible stretch.While it's hardly a definitive source the PotJ sourcebook has Mace stated out as a 7th level Jedi Guardian/6th level Jedi Master/ 5th level Jedi Weapon Master, for comparison Yoda is a 9th level Jedi Consular/ 8th level Jedi Master/3rd level Jedi Instructor. Both as of Ep2. According to the DS sourcebook Sidious is a 3rd level Noble/3rd level Dark Side Devotee/9th level Sith Lord and in the revised corebook Palpy is 4th level Noble/6th level Dark Side Devotee/10th level Sith Lord as of Ep6.If the rpg folks got any kind of guidance on those, it gives a good indication Mace's whooping of Sidious is no act.Go for, only way to convince everyone (still may not work though).p.s. Are you making them youself? If so how?Well keep in mind I stopped reading SW comics around the time of DE2, so things easily could have gotten worse after that.</blockquote>