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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3662385" data-attributes="member: 18363">It has been really interesting to read all these posts. I have found it more interesting that long standing and respected posters have seen the same well known character in completely opposite lights - some seeing LE, others CE. Myself? I think that as a child he was NN with chaotic tendencies and good tendencies - perhaps even enough to be considered CG, but I doubt it. As an adolescent he struggled to fit in at the jedi academy, ultimately failing. He also experienced something akin to the helm of opposite alignment, for the seeming incompetence of the senate drove him towards lawful tendencies instead of chaotic ones. And his failures to truly fit in at the jedi academy - combined with the ever increasing influence of Palpatine - drove him towards more selfish views and desires than prior, eventually encouraging evil tendencies, especially after his mother's death (and his follow-up revenge). After padme's death - as an adult - he did not seem to feel he had any guiding light except palapatine. And so much like an automaton he nearly was (half-golem or half-warforged template, perhaps?) he followed orders, becoming ever more lawful in inclination mostly because he did not see any other path. As he once said to Luke, resisting the path of the dark side is futile. It is not, but that seems to be Vader's view after padme's death up until he is given the opportunity to save his son. So I see a gradual shift form NN (with C and G tendencies) as a child, to NN (no real tendencies) and then NE (with L tendencies) as an adolescent and young adult, to finally either LE or NE (LE tendencies) for most of his adulthood. I'm not yet fully certain as to whether - as Vader of the original trilogy - he was LE or merely NE with Lawful tendencies.</blockquote>

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