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Message: <blockquote data-quote="raleel" data-source="post: 7046115" data-attributes="member: 21664">They were there, they just didn't get a lot of screen time, as it were. Norse used spear and axe. Indeed, everyone used spear.D&D just does a poor job of modeling where they would be used for the most part. There is very little approach up to the clash, armor represents hard to hit and not difficulty to damage, movement is very fast, etc etc. there are other systems that do this part better, to be sure. My own group dislikes ranged weapons as well. So much so that it is relatively easy to flummox them with a flying opponent or ones that are difficult to reach. I started toying with putting in archers (maybe it should have been slingers or javelineers!) in difficult to reach locations that required skill checks to get to quickly, or time (and exposure) to get to slowly. It really changed a lot of battle dynamics. It also gave something for those flanker types to do, and forced choices like "do I stay here and sneak attack every round against the fighters target, or do I use my superior skills and get in close on those archers, lose sneak attack, but also make them stop shooting everyone"Ranged combat exclusively is pretty dull to play though.</blockquote>