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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ambrus" data-source="post: 4426435" data-attributes="member: 17691"><p>The thief-acrobat and swashbuckler aren't really what my friend is aiming for though. What he wants is to be a Charisma-based swashbuckler rather than a Dexterity-based tumbler or a Strength-based brawler; he wants to beat opponents through daring and guile rather than through physical might. A combination of feats and classes that could possibly grant him his Charisma bonus to attack and/or damage and/or AC while building upon his Improved Feint combat strategy is what he'd like to try. It's a tricky proposition, which is why I'm asking for help.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>