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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8743671" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I'll bite, given that I wrote the OP (you did know that, didn't you) and that the OP was a specific response to Jon Peterson's book Game Wizards, which documented this issue in great detail. But you know what- you joined on Saturday solely for the purpose of commenting on this thread, so obviously your snark is well-earned!Let's break down your points-First, you seem to elide what I wrote- no one denies that Gygax was trying to make money. No, the point is that Arneson was trying to make money as well. What has been extensively documented, now, is how terrible he was at it. How so many people got burned in the 70s by trusting Arneson. How he repeatedly made claims that he had rules (and didn't), and how he repeatedly had other people do the work ("editing") for him. Next, you seem to ignore what has actually been reported regarding the lawsuit. There's a reason I referenced Nimmer and the illustrations. It is somewhat impressive that a person managed to say that his game was nothing like what TSR put out, and also that everything that was completely due to his work. And, again, this is basic IP and contract law; the reason for the settlement, as was explored in the book, is because it happened at a moment of maximum leverage. - not because it was earned (it had to do with a contract that was poorly written, and, arguably, a poor decision by the judge early on). Next, "whatever his motive ..." Dude, THERE IS AN ENTIRE BOOK ABOUT THIS. It has the contracts. It describes exactly how TSR was formed.So ... maybe educate yourself before you comment? Here's a link-[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/Game-Wizards-Dungeons-Dragons-Histories/dp/0262542951[/URL]Or ask your library to carry it. KTHX!</blockquote>

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