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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6729948" data-attributes="member: 25818"><p><strong>Originally posted by wrecan:</strong></p><p></p><p>Don Kaye died in January 1976, before most of those books were published. He is listed as a co-author of the very first D&D publication. This was back when TSR still thought it would have popular RPGs in every genre, and thought <em>Boot Hill</em> would be as big as D&D. Kaye was a huge fan of Westerns (Don Kaye's character in Gygax' Greyhawk campaign was Murlynd, the gunslinger-cum-fantasy adventurer), so he stopped working on D&D stuff and worked on <em>Boot Hill</em>. Then he died (and Brian Blume finished <em>Boot Hill</em>). I would guess that to the extent that 1st edition <em>Boot Hill</em> and OD&D share similar mechanics, that is some indication as to what mechanics Kaye may have contributed. </p><p></p><p>It's alwasy been unclear what Kaye contributed to the game because he and Gygax co-wrote everything and Gygax never specified what was his idea and what was Kaye's. One of the reasons we know so much about Arneson's and Gygax' respective contributions was that their dispute encouraged each of them to make clear what they had brought to the game. It also encouraged Gygax to lump his and Kaye's contributions together.</p><p></p><p>Don Kaye was one of the co-founders, with Gygax, of TSR. When he died, Melvin Blume bought his one-third interest and then gave it to his son, Kevin, which is why the Blumes could control TSR and oust Gygax in 1985 and bring in she-who-shall-not-be-named.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 6729948, member: 25818"] [b]Originally posted by wrecan:[/b] Don Kaye died in January 1976, before most of those books were published. He is listed as a co-author of the very first D&D publication. This was back when TSR still thought it would have popular RPGs in every genre, and thought [I]Boot Hill[/I] would be as big as D&D. Kaye was a huge fan of Westerns (Don Kaye's character in Gygax' Greyhawk campaign was Murlynd, the gunslinger-cum-fantasy adventurer), so he stopped working on D&D stuff and worked on [I]Boot Hill[/I]. Then he died (and Brian Blume finished [I]Boot Hill[/I]). I would guess that to the extent that 1st edition [I]Boot Hill[/I] and OD&D share similar mechanics, that is some indication as to what mechanics Kaye may have contributed. It's alwasy been unclear what Kaye contributed to the game because he and Gygax co-wrote everything and Gygax never specified what was his idea and what was Kaye's. One of the reasons we know so much about Arneson's and Gygax' respective contributions was that their dispute encouraged each of them to make clear what they had brought to the game. It also encouraged Gygax to lump his and Kaye's contributions together. Don Kaye was one of the co-founders, with Gygax, of TSR. When he died, Melvin Blume bought his one-third interest and then gave it to his son, Kevin, which is why the Blumes could control TSR and oust Gygax in 1985 and bring in she-who-shall-not-be-named. [/QUOTE]
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