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<blockquote data-quote="Shortman McLeod" data-source="post: 3755867" data-attributes="member: 53748">I agree with you; the WotC designers do genuinely believe they are improving the game (and perhaps they are; heck, we haven't seen 4e yet).But my point was that it is nonsense to suggest that the introduction of 4e was motivated by ANYTHING other than profit.&nbsp; The suits at Hasbro looked at the balance sheet and said, &quot;3.5 isn't profitable anymore.&nbsp; Time for 4.0.&quot;&nbsp; And honestly, that's fine.&nbsp; They're a corporation; they need to be profitable to survive.&nbsp; But please don't start burying us in pro-4e and anti-3.5 propaganda and pretend that this is all a matter of &quot;evolution of game design.&quot;&nbsp; It's about bucks, as the introduction of a new product always is.&nbsp; The fact that the WotC designers are excited about the new product and believe it is an improvement doesn't change that.Put it another way: if 3.5 had been burning up sales charts and raking in millions of $$$, do you honestly think we'd be seeing 4e now? And do you honestly think WotC designers would be publicly musing about how awkward 3.5 is to play and how difficult it is to DM?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shortman McLeod, post: 3755867, member: 53748"] I agree with you; the WotC designers do genuinely believe they are improving the game (and perhaps they are; heck, we haven't seen 4e yet). But my point was that it is nonsense to suggest that the introduction of 4e was motivated by ANYTHING other than profit. The suits at Hasbro looked at the balance sheet and said, "3.5 isn't profitable anymore. Time for 4.0." And honestly, that's fine. They're a corporation; they need to be profitable to survive. But please don't start burying us in pro-4e and anti-3.5 propaganda and pretend that this is all a matter of "evolution of game design." It's about bucks, as the introduction of a new product always is. The fact that the WotC designers are excited about the new product and believe it is an improvement doesn't change that. Put it another way: if 3.5 had been burning up sales charts and raking in millions of $$$, do you honestly think we'd be seeing 4e now? And do you honestly think WotC designers would be publicly musing about how awkward 3.5 is to play and how difficult it is to DM? [/QUOTE]

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