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<blockquote data-quote="DM_Jeff" data-source="post: 3759160" data-attributes="member: 3687">Wow, so many passionate posts, too many to read lal the way through methinks. So I will say my piece and back off. I'm not looking for a fight with WotC, but not allowed to be annoyed at 4e is putting me in a pressure cooker.&gt;&gt;Mr. Noonan says: &quot;Telling us what's working/not working at your table right now is a good idea.&quot;3.5 is working at my game table. And that's the crux of 11 people in NJ, who blame all the folks who post endless complaints about rules that with a little work or common sense would work just fine &quot;wins&quot; and gets a new edition and us, who like and play the game with no problems at all and tell WotC they're doing a good job gets &quot;punished&quot; by having hundreds of dollars of obsolete materials. That's all. So I'm sorry Dave will be dissapointed with my group not getting 4.0, but we're having a really great time with 3.5. So be happy you all made such an enduring product.-DM Jeff</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM_Jeff, post: 3759160, member: 3687"] Wow, so many passionate posts, too many to read lal the way through methinks. So I will say my piece and back off. I'm not looking for a fight with WotC, but not allowed to be annoyed at 4e is putting me in a pressure cooker. >>Mr. Noonan says: "Telling us what's working/not working at your table right now is a good idea." 3.5 is working at my game table. And that's the crux of 11 people in NJ, who blame all the folks who post endless complaints about rules that with a little work or common sense would work just fine "wins" and gets a new edition and us, who like and play the game with no problems at all and tell WotC they're doing a good job gets "punished" by having hundreds of dollars of obsolete materials. That's all. So I'm sorry Dave will be dissapointed with my group not getting 4.0, but we're having a really great time with 3.5. So be happy you all made such an enduring product. -DM Jeff [/QUOTE]

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