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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 3120434" data-attributes="member: 545"><p>In all seriousness, Whizbang Dustyboots, the last time I fought a powerful dragon it was not that big a deal.</p><p></p><p>I was in a 2e Forgotten Realms campaign. We were 9th-10th level. The DM had this ancient large red fly by -- we had actually brushed up with this thing long before.</p><p></p><p>We were supposed to be intimidated. Hide. Let it pass. You know the drill.</p><p></p><p>One of of the players was feeling a bit flustered. "Woo hoo! Mr. Dragon!!! Come here! Baby need a new pair of dragonhide boots!"</p><p></p><p>The thing is we had spent the last 19 million sessions fighting Demonic this and Drow that. <em>I</em> had become frustrated with so much DR, SR, and immunities up the wazoo.</p><p></p><p>From my POV, the DM had been keeping us in check by nickel and diming the PCs a thousand and one different ways. A dragon looked like a <em>very</em> simple clean fight compared to what I was used to.</p><p></p><p>The DM had no idea what was coming.</p><p></p><p>The funny thing is, half the party ducked out and hid just because it seemed karmically bad to taunt the DM's pet dragon.</p><p></p><p>The rest of us... "Dragonhide boots! Dragonhide boots! Woo hoo!!!"</p><p></p><p>We opened up that flying bag of 250 hit points like a children on a sugar high with a shiny package on Christmas morning.</p><p></p><p>We lost one guy, but the dragon did not have a snowballs chance of living even if he might of gotten one or two more of us.</p><p></p><p>I think it took 5 rounds. </p><p></p><p>Dragons got beefed up in 2e. And our DM even beefed them up a couple notches more. </p><p></p><p>The dragon died so pathecially becuase our PCs and usual enemies had been locked in such a crazy arms race of buffing, countermagic, defensive magic that the plain old dragon had been completely out evolved, like a burly Neanderthal man blundering into of tribe of Homo Sapiens Sapiens armed with a flintlocks. </p><p></p><p>Part of it was also that 9th-10th level was sort the top of the food chain for 1e/2e. What monster straight from the MM could challenge such PCs, especially in Forgotten Realms?</p><p></p><p>How many rounds does it take to kill a 1e Large Ancient Red? 5-6 10th level PCs can easily take it down in 2 rounds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 3120434, member: 545"] In all seriousness, Whizbang Dustyboots, the last time I fought a powerful dragon it was not that big a deal. I was in a 2e Forgotten Realms campaign. We were 9th-10th level. The DM had this ancient large red fly by -- we had actually brushed up with this thing long before. We were supposed to be intimidated. Hide. Let it pass. You know the drill. One of of the players was feeling a bit flustered. "Woo hoo! Mr. Dragon!!! Come here! Baby need a new pair of dragonhide boots!" The thing is we had spent the last 19 million sessions fighting Demonic this and Drow that. [i]I[/i] had become frustrated with so much DR, SR, and immunities up the wazoo. From my POV, the DM had been keeping us in check by nickel and diming the PCs a thousand and one different ways. A dragon looked like a [i]very[/i] simple clean fight compared to what I was used to. The DM had no idea what was coming. The funny thing is, half the party ducked out and hid just because it seemed karmically bad to taunt the DM's pet dragon. The rest of us... "Dragonhide boots! Dragonhide boots! Woo hoo!!!" We opened up that flying bag of 250 hit points like a children on a sugar high with a shiny package on Christmas morning. We lost one guy, but the dragon did not have a snowballs chance of living even if he might of gotten one or two more of us. I think it took 5 rounds. Dragons got beefed up in 2e. And our DM even beefed them up a couple notches more. The dragon died so pathecially becuase our PCs and usual enemies had been locked in such a crazy arms race of buffing, countermagic, defensive magic that the plain old dragon had been completely out evolved, like a burly Neanderthal man blundering into of tribe of Homo Sapiens Sapiens armed with a flintlocks. Part of it was also that 9th-10th level was sort the top of the food chain for 1e/2e. What monster straight from the MM could challenge such PCs, especially in Forgotten Realms? How many rounds does it take to kill a 1e Large Ancient Red? 5-6 10th level PCs can easily take it down in 2 rounds. [/QUOTE]
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