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<blockquote data-quote="Grompi" data-source="post: 1238668" data-attributes="member: 15403"><p>Granted. Nobody else without enough neutrality to do an unbiased review has read the book either, I'll wager. I was referring only to the preview, and I never called my opinion post a review. You did. </p><p></p><p>I felt that if I was goin' to say somethin' negative about the preview material, I needed to say why. So, I had the wherewithal to put me gold where me fat, hairy mouth is. It's easy to say somethin' is bad or good (or that someone's points are factually incorrect), but it's a whole other game to step up and use the grey matter to say why. That brings us to:</p><p></p><p>If you say my small opinion post and cited reasons are proclamations, we'll have to take your word for it. What yer really sayin' is that I should to buy the book to see if it's bad or good instead of relying on me instincts and info in an actual excerpt from the product in question—an excerpt the brilliant marketers at FFG chose to release as a sample of what someone gets when they do buy the book. No thanks. I'll stick with me misguided preconceptions. If ye'd like to send me a copy, I'll do a review and eat me words publicly if I'm wrong. I'll even send the copy back to ye, or pay for it if I like it, that way ye lose no precious bottom line on the deal. If that's too risky for ye, send me some b&w printouts. I'll send those back to ye too, if'n ye want.</p><p></p><p>But, ye'll probably say, "Why should I send some nobody from the EN World forums a copy o' me own book and trust that he'll keep his word?" Ye'd be right on one count. I am a nobody whose opinion has only as much credence as any one person gives it.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for not doin' the community any type o' real service by refutin' me points though. Real generous and industrious o' ye. If ye had disproved them, I could have apologized for me foolishness, and we'd all get to see how glorious <em>Dawnforge</em> really is. As it stands, we only have your word on it and the fact that we'll have to shell out $40 to find out the truth o' the matter. I'll be keepin' me own $40, thanks.</p><p></p><p>I always thought the professional thing to do when faced with an unfair "proclamation" by an uninformed source was to: </p><p></p><p>1) Avoid an emotional response.</p><p>2) Correct factual errors in that person's piece (obviously so the community can see what's really true and to make a fool o' the fool who posted the incorrect junk without resorting to emotional comebacks).</p><p></p><p>Hmmmm. </p><p></p><p>That said, as I said before lots o' luck and success with <em>Dawnforge</em> regardless o' me opinion. Fantasy Flight is a good thing for the industry, in general. Greg Benage's Yahoo post does make a compellin' statement that characters can alter the indicated future o' Dawnforge, which is indeed interestin'. However, PCs alterin' the face o' a world's "future history" with their titanic acts ain't somethin' new either. That's the basis o' epic fantasy roleplayin'.</p><p></p><p>But, I guess I should o' done as me granma said and kept me mouth shut if'n I didn't have anythin' nice to say. So, here goes:</p><p></p><p>The layout and artwork look pretty good and better 'n some other FFG books! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Nice!</p><p></p><p>That's fine. I like to hear opinions from others. Yours is just as valuable as mine, and I agree that sometimes these elements make a settin' familiar in a good way. It's not a bad thing to borrow from master storytellers and myth. I was just statin' that <em>I feel</em> (just me feelin's) it’s a waste o' <em>me own</em> time and money to buy somethin' <em>so</em>, for lack of a better word, common. That's why I was so thankful for the previews.</p><p></p><p>Great point. Thanks for the elucidation. This is a lesson I'll take to heart when designin' for me gamin' group. Bloody kobolds.</p><p></p><p> Please don't hesitate to educate me. I appreciate it. I can be overemotional at times. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> This medium ain't the best for conveyin' emotional content, even with smilies. BTW, I saw yer profile (Mine ain't done yet. Sorry.), and I wanted to say thanks as a US citizen who noted your occupation. That's as political as I'll get. </p><p></p><p>On another note, can ye tell me what it means to "spam an attack"?</p><p></p><p>Thanks all. I had no idea me little post would attract such attention.</p><p></p><p>>;P></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grompi, post: 1238668, member: 15403"] Granted. Nobody else without enough neutrality to do an unbiased review has read the book either, I'll wager. I was referring only to the preview, and I never called my opinion post a review. You did. I felt that if I was goin' to say somethin' negative about the preview material, I needed to say why. So, I had the wherewithal to put me gold where me fat, hairy mouth is. It's easy to say somethin' is bad or good (or that someone's points are factually incorrect), but it's a whole other game to step up and use the grey matter to say why. That brings us to: If you say my small opinion post and cited reasons are proclamations, we'll have to take your word for it. What yer really sayin' is that I should to buy the book to see if it's bad or good instead of relying on me instincts and info in an actual excerpt from the product in question—an excerpt the brilliant marketers at FFG chose to release as a sample of what someone gets when they do buy the book. No thanks. I'll stick with me misguided preconceptions. If ye'd like to send me a copy, I'll do a review and eat me words publicly if I'm wrong. I'll even send the copy back to ye, or pay for it if I like it, that way ye lose no precious bottom line on the deal. If that's too risky for ye, send me some b&w printouts. I'll send those back to ye too, if'n ye want. But, ye'll probably say, "Why should I send some nobody from the EN World forums a copy o' me own book and trust that he'll keep his word?" Ye'd be right on one count. I am a nobody whose opinion has only as much credence as any one person gives it. Thanks for not doin' the community any type o' real service by refutin' me points though. Real generous and industrious o' ye. If ye had disproved them, I could have apologized for me foolishness, and we'd all get to see how glorious [I]Dawnforge[/I] really is. As it stands, we only have your word on it and the fact that we'll have to shell out $40 to find out the truth o' the matter. I'll be keepin' me own $40, thanks. I always thought the professional thing to do when faced with an unfair "proclamation" by an uninformed source was to: 1) Avoid an emotional response. 2) Correct factual errors in that person's piece (obviously so the community can see what's really true and to make a fool o' the fool who posted the incorrect junk without resorting to emotional comebacks). Hmmmm. That said, as I said before lots o' luck and success with [I]Dawnforge[/I] regardless o' me opinion. Fantasy Flight is a good thing for the industry, in general. Greg Benage's Yahoo post does make a compellin' statement that characters can alter the indicated future o' Dawnforge, which is indeed interestin'. However, PCs alterin' the face o' a world's "future history" with their titanic acts ain't somethin' new either. That's the basis o' epic fantasy roleplayin'. But, I guess I should o' done as me granma said and kept me mouth shut if'n I didn't have anythin' nice to say. So, here goes: The layout and artwork look pretty good and better 'n some other FFG books! :D Nice! That's fine. I like to hear opinions from others. Yours is just as valuable as mine, and I agree that sometimes these elements make a settin' familiar in a good way. It's not a bad thing to borrow from master storytellers and myth. I was just statin' that [I]I feel[/I] (just me feelin's) it’s a waste o' [I]me own[/I] time and money to buy somethin' [I]so[/I], for lack of a better word, common. That's why I was so thankful for the previews. Great point. Thanks for the elucidation. This is a lesson I'll take to heart when designin' for me gamin' group. Bloody kobolds. Please don't hesitate to educate me. I appreciate it. I can be overemotional at times. :p This medium ain't the best for conveyin' emotional content, even with smilies. BTW, I saw yer profile (Mine ain't done yet. Sorry.), and I wanted to say thanks as a US citizen who noted your occupation. That's as political as I'll get. On another note, can ye tell me what it means to "spam an attack"? Thanks all. I had no idea me little post would attract such attention. >;P> [/QUOTE]
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