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<blockquote data-quote="Blacksway" data-source="post: 265399" data-attributes="member: 1337"><p>We have an argument in our group about the dispelling effects of deeper darkness vs daylight.</p><p></p><p>The party has entered a dungeon completely filled with deeper darkness spells, which the've been ignoring thanks to a scroll of daylight; these two spells cancel each other out, so the party is relying on torches to see (same as usual) and everyone is staying within 60' of the Sorcerer, to remain within the effects of the daylight.</p><p></p><p>The DM has a goblin priest capable of casting deeper darkness at will, and chooses to use another casting as a kind of dispel magic, since, in the wording of his spell, it says that "it counters and dispels daylight".</p><p></p><p>The use of deeper darkness as a counterspell is not under dispute but the DM plans to use the spell to target and negate the active daylight spell, much as a dispel magic.</p><p></p><p>To this, the players argue that this would be, in effect, trying to stack two deeper darkness spells, claiming that the dispelling effect is already covered under the spell descriptions, where it states that the two spells cancel each other out. They quote from the glossary: "Dispel: to counter, negate, or suppress another spell", and argue that this is the same as suppression.</p><p></p><p>Anyone understand all that? Whew! It's very much a matter of semantics. I won't say whether I'm the DM or one of the players, I'm just putting the argument up for debate.</p><p></p><p>We're back together next week, so prompt replies would be appreciated, ta!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blacksway, post: 265399, member: 1337"] We have an argument in our group about the dispelling effects of deeper darkness vs daylight. The party has entered a dungeon completely filled with deeper darkness spells, which the've been ignoring thanks to a scroll of daylight; these two spells cancel each other out, so the party is relying on torches to see (same as usual) and everyone is staying within 60' of the Sorcerer, to remain within the effects of the daylight. The DM has a goblin priest capable of casting deeper darkness at will, and chooses to use another casting as a kind of dispel magic, since, in the wording of his spell, it says that "it counters and dispels daylight". The use of deeper darkness as a counterspell is not under dispute but the DM plans to use the spell to target and negate the active daylight spell, much as a dispel magic. To this, the players argue that this would be, in effect, trying to stack two deeper darkness spells, claiming that the dispelling effect is already covered under the spell descriptions, where it states that the two spells cancel each other out. They quote from the glossary: "Dispel: to counter, negate, or suppress another spell", and argue that this is the same as suppression. Anyone understand all that? Whew! It's very much a matter of semantics. I won't say whether I'm the DM or one of the players, I'm just putting the argument up for debate. We're back together next week, so prompt replies would be appreciated, ta! [/QUOTE]
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