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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1956557" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>The problem is, there probably is no clear rules answer, since they often use terms, like "act normally", which are not defined in a clear way. I guess they think it's obvious enough.</p><p> </p><p> The D&D rulebooks are no math books, where everything is <em>well-defined</em>.</p><p> </p><p> I'd consider the Attack of Opportunity as an action, tho. There are several types of actions, which can be performed outside of one's turn, so there obviously are exceptions to the general rule, that you only can do so during your turn. Attacks of Opportunity seem to be one such exception, where an action is performed outside of your turn. In any case, if you actively do something, that would be acting from your side, and making an Attack of Opportunity is active, as you can freely choose to make one or not, within situational limits, of course.</p><p> </p><p> A melee attack, which you perform during an Attack of Opportunity, is defined as a Standard Action by the rules, so it seems that an attack is an action, just that the Attack of Opportunity is not a Standard Action, but free (not a Free Action either, however), but it's still an action, since you obviously act then.</p><p> </p><p> The condition does not say, that you lose your actions for the round, it says, that it prevents you to act normally. Normally you get to act, when someone provokes an Attack of Opportunity in your Threatened Area. Daze denies that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> You do not want to say, that a paralyzed character can make Attacks of Opportunity, or do you? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p> So this "act" obviously does not refer to "Free Action, Move Action, Standard Action, or Full-Round Action", but is meant to be read as a more general kind of action.</p><p> </p><p> Bye</p><p> Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1956557, member: 478"] The problem is, there probably is no clear rules answer, since they often use terms, like "act normally", which are not defined in a clear way. I guess they think it's obvious enough. The D&D rulebooks are no math books, where everything is [i]well-defined[/i]. I'd consider the Attack of Opportunity as an action, tho. There are several types of actions, which can be performed outside of one's turn, so there obviously are exceptions to the general rule, that you only can do so during your turn. Attacks of Opportunity seem to be one such exception, where an action is performed outside of your turn. In any case, if you actively do something, that would be acting from your side, and making an Attack of Opportunity is active, as you can freely choose to make one or not, within situational limits, of course. A melee attack, which you perform during an Attack of Opportunity, is defined as a Standard Action by the rules, so it seems that an attack is an action, just that the Attack of Opportunity is not a Standard Action, but free (not a Free Action either, however), but it's still an action, since you obviously act then. The condition does not say, that you lose your actions for the round, it says, that it prevents you to act normally. Normally you get to act, when someone provokes an Attack of Opportunity in your Threatened Area. Daze denies that. You do not want to say, that a paralyzed character can make Attacks of Opportunity, or do you? ;) So this "act" obviously does not refer to "Free Action, Move Action, Standard Action, or Full-Round Action", but is meant to be read as a more general kind of action. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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