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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1169533" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>It's from Magic of Faerun - which I'll remind you is <em>banned</em> in many circles for providing too many infinite power combos. So it's not a balanced book, not by any means.</p><p></p><p>As to being better than Otto's Irresistable Dance - I would say that it is. Because it doesn't require an attack roll. In either case, you are basically dead when facing the 15th level enemy who can cast this spell.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, it is a "Red Wizard" spell, which in Faerun is normally gained by virtue of being a Specialist Wizard (Enchanter) who is a member of an elite and powerful order of Enchanters - or defeating same in combat and capturing one of their books.</p><p></p><p>So basically it's like an ability of the Red Wizard Prestige Class - when you get to character level 15 you get NWC instead of OID. It's better - significantly so. It's supposed to be, you have to go through a whole lot of work to get that spell.</p><p></p><p>Whether that's "balanced" depends entirely upon whether you are the kind of DM who will allow the Fighter, with similar questing and effort, to gain powerful magical swords and armor. If you are, then you probably shouldn't be whining about Wizards being able to quest for more powerful spells - which is exactly what NWC is. It's a quest reward and a powerful high level spell.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1169533, member: 14225"] It's from Magic of Faerun - which I'll remind you is [i]banned[/i] in many circles for providing too many infinite power combos. So it's not a balanced book, not by any means. As to being better than Otto's Irresistable Dance - I would say that it is. Because it doesn't require an attack roll. In either case, you are basically dead when facing the 15th level enemy who can cast this spell. Regardless, it is a "Red Wizard" spell, which in Faerun is normally gained by virtue of being a Specialist Wizard (Enchanter) who is a member of an elite and powerful order of Enchanters - or defeating same in combat and capturing one of their books. So basically it's like an ability of the Red Wizard Prestige Class - when you get to character level 15 you get NWC instead of OID. It's better - significantly so. It's supposed to be, you have to go through a whole lot of work to get that spell. Whether that's "balanced" depends entirely upon whether you are the kind of DM who will allow the Fighter, with similar questing and effort, to gain powerful magical swords and armor. If you are, then you probably shouldn't be whining about Wizards being able to quest for more powerful spells - which is exactly what NWC is. It's a quest reward and a powerful high level spell. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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