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<blockquote data-quote="Ares" data-source="post: 5395923" data-attributes="member: 36812">Three words:&nbsp; Machine-gun Punches.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />&nbsp; Fighting doesn't necessarily mean martial artist, it just an abstraction of how likely they are to hit.&nbsp; And a person called &quot;the flash&quot; should be pretty accurate. &nbsp;MM is not a light-weight, but he isn't an A-lister either.&nbsp; Black Adam is roughly equal with Captain Marvel in the comics, and should have good edge on Supes thanks to being magic.&nbsp; Really, he should be 15 or 16.&nbsp; That's not really the issue.&nbsp; The issue is the wussification of Darkseid.No, it really doesn't, which is why I said those stats are going to cause rampant nerd rage.&nbsp; Go ahead to the DC comic forums and claim that Black Adam and Darksied are combat equals.&nbsp; It'll take a week for you to cool down from the amount of flames you'd receive.&nbsp; One character is the champion of gods and the other is the god-king of his own pantheon.&nbsp; Even on a conceptual level these two are not peers.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses&nbsp; &nbsp; B-)" data-shortname="B-)" />&nbsp;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Again, it was how you said it earlier.&nbsp; And in that particular case, Batman didn't outsmart or outfight, but just used what was essentially divine Kryptonite.Another note on impervious:&nbsp; Magic based attacks ignore Supes impervious toughness, but since impervious stinks it effectively removes a major weakness of the big S and frankly alters his build a little bit.&nbsp; It's not a real weakness.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ares, post: 5395923, member: 36812"] Three words: Machine-gun Punches.:cool: Fighting doesn't necessarily mean martial artist, it just an abstraction of how likely they are to hit. And a person called "the flash" should be pretty accurate. MM is not a light-weight, but he isn't an A-lister either. Black Adam is roughly equal with Captain Marvel in the comics, and should have good edge on Supes thanks to being magic. Really, he should be 15 or 16. That's not really the issue. The issue is the wussification of Darkseid. No, it really doesn't, which is why I said those stats are going to cause rampant nerd rage. Go ahead to the DC comic forums and claim that Black Adam and Darksied are combat equals. It'll take a week for you to cool down from the amount of flames you'd receive. One character is the champion of gods and the other is the god-king of his own pantheon. Even on a [I]conceptual[/I] level these two are not peers.B-) ;) Again, it was how you said it earlier. And in that particular case, Batman didn't outsmart or outfight, but just used what was essentially divine Kryptonite. Another note on impervious: Magic based attacks ignore Supes impervious toughness, but since impervious stinks it effectively removes a major weakness of the big S and frankly alters his build a little bit. It's not a real weakness. [/QUOTE]

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