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<blockquote data-quote="pressedcat" data-source="post: 2984541" data-attributes="member: 40736">Thanks for the feedback, and the point is well taken about giving the pc's a biased option; i'll be lowering the DC's by 5-10, and probably allowing either balance or climb checks. I originally chose balance as the closest example i could find was in the DMG in the environment:urban section under crossing a sloped roof (DC15). I guess i just got carried away with the dc and was being too inflexible with the way i wanted the outcome to go, which on second thoughts would have just been frustrating and pointless for the pc's. I'd already started to have a rethink since my last post as to whether i was being too harsh, and the replies you've posted confirm that.As to how to get the mules across, just checked the monster manual, and i think i'll change them to donkeys (+3 on balance). Then possibly some handle animal checks, bracing ropes and whatever else the pc's can think of, and it might be possible to get everyone across (though not without risks). With the balance/climb checks reduced to dc15-20, does a cr of 3 sound about right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pressedcat, post: 2984541, member: 40736"] Thanks for the feedback, and the point is well taken about giving the pc's a biased option; i'll be lowering the DC's by 5-10, and probably allowing either balance or climb checks. I originally chose balance as the closest example i could find was in the DMG in the environment:urban section under crossing a sloped roof (DC15). I guess i just got carried away with the dc and was being too inflexible with the way i wanted the outcome to go, which on second thoughts would have just been frustrating and pointless for the pc's. I'd already started to have a rethink since my last post as to whether i was being too harsh, and the replies you've posted confirm that. As to how to get the mules across, just checked the monster manual, and i think i'll change them to donkeys (+3 on balance). Then possibly some handle animal checks, bracing ropes and whatever else the pc's can think of, and it might be possible to get everyone across (though not without risks). With the balance/climb checks reduced to dc15-20, does a cr of 3 sound about right? [/QUOTE]

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