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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheGogmagog" data-source="post: 3565512" data-attributes="member: 27702">The situation is our party came up with a puzzle for the BBEG.  The DM knows how we did it and approves doesn't want to arbitrarily assume the BBEG figured it out.  Hence the need to set a DC for those of you who read the title and thought it shouldn't be a skill check but role played.Bestt case I'm thinking: The PC's spent a day figuring it out (similar to taking 20 to the Intelligence check).  Four PC's contributed +2 aid another three times, plus the leaders Intelligence bonus.  This would max around DC 28 intelligence check.I can't recall the DMG suggested DC's, but DC 30 skill check sounds like a good nigh-impossible task.  I also seem to recall a suggestion of DC 15 when you don't know what to set.  I believe there is also a rule that 'usually' only two people can aid in a task, but that's how many players contributed to the solution so I'm thinking this would be a fair to assume the PC's also contributed.  With the reduced starting DC 15, the result would be DC 23.  A respectfully clever trick.The PC's pulled the trick on the BBEG once, and needs to do it twice more.  I figure it would be fair to get a +4 modifier after he sees the trick the second time.</blockquote>