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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5348540" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I think it's a lot of hyperbole to say that people doing the "subscription shuffle" are hurting the hobby.</p><p></p><p>People who subscribe give WotC money. After a certain number of subscribers (who are paying for upkeep and the initial set-up), it's pure profit. </p><p></p><p>If everyone subscribed for a month and then bowed out, it would probably just mean DDI wasn't worth the upkeep, and the thing would be dropped. Without really hurting the hobby, which was doing fine before DDI came along.</p><p></p><p>Since we're a year or so into DDI, and it's not gone yet, I'm betting the outlook is at least a little more optimistic. </p><p></p><p>There will <strong>always</strong> be marginal players. Pirates, shufflers, group-moochers, whatever. The losses you incur from trying to stop these marginal players have to be less than the potential losses you incur from simply letting them play at the edges with a sharp eye on 'em in order for it to be worth it. </p><p></p><p>In this case, I would not be surprised if it was worth it to stop them. </p><p></p><p>I mean, maybe it would be. I was wrong about Dark Sun. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Maybe I'm not conscious of where WotC is on this. Maybe the red-faced screaming about THOSE PEOPLE WHO ONLY GIVE US $10!!!!! is more than I'd guess it would be. </p><p></p><p>But it would still seem like there's more likely moves for 'em.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5348540, member: 2067"] I think it's a lot of hyperbole to say that people doing the "subscription shuffle" are hurting the hobby. People who subscribe give WotC money. After a certain number of subscribers (who are paying for upkeep and the initial set-up), it's pure profit. If everyone subscribed for a month and then bowed out, it would probably just mean DDI wasn't worth the upkeep, and the thing would be dropped. Without really hurting the hobby, which was doing fine before DDI came along. Since we're a year or so into DDI, and it's not gone yet, I'm betting the outlook is at least a little more optimistic. There will [B]always[/B] be marginal players. Pirates, shufflers, group-moochers, whatever. The losses you incur from trying to stop these marginal players have to be less than the potential losses you incur from simply letting them play at the edges with a sharp eye on 'em in order for it to be worth it. In this case, I would not be surprised if it was worth it to stop them. I mean, maybe it would be. I was wrong about Dark Sun. ;) Maybe I'm not conscious of where WotC is on this. Maybe the red-faced screaming about THOSE PEOPLE WHO ONLY GIVE US $10!!!!! is more than I'd guess it would be. But it would still seem like there's more likely moves for 'em. [/QUOTE]
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