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<blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4144090" data-attributes="member: 61231"><p>Okay, the thing that keeps irking me this whole thread is any mention, in any shape or form, of DDI's GameTable being <em>remotely</em> worth the cost.</p><p></p><p>Fantasy Grounds II (DM server + <em>six</em> player clients): $90 USD, one time</p><p>Fantasy Grounds is awesome and truly FEELS like tabletop (or as close as you can come to it! It's the program my gaming group (scattered all over the country) has been using for a year now!</p><p></p><p>But that's just ONE of the VTTs out there that <em>own</em>. Battlegrounds RPG is fan-freaking tastic (and a one-time purchase) as is Klooge.Werks, and don't leave out MapTool, which is <strong>free</strong>! We've been using VTTs for the last decade--those of us that wanted to--and there's no freaking subscription.</p><p></p><p>Take my $90 FG2 setup and compare it to DDI. Even if my entire gaming group commited to a year of service, we would be paying $70 <em>per month</em>. After a year we're out $840. <em>Are you kidding me?</em> But wait! You get a clunky 3D interface with 3D miniatures! <em>Not for $840 USD, you don't--that's <u>extra</u>.</em></p><p></p><p>GameTable is going to fall right on it's face and crumble away as long as they stick to this "subscription" based service. It needs to be a standalone product, and if you want the miniatures for everything in the Monster Manual, you buy that virtual mini pack. And maybe, sometime after release, when they are wondering why almost no one is using GameTable, maybe they'll recognize that most people that wanted a VTT already have one--and actually offer them something with VALUE.</p><p></p><p>Because right now I don't even have a <em>consideration</em> that GameTable will be worth $840 USD per year for my group. When I say that, I wonder if Wizards feels as stupid saying it as I do when I repeat it.</p><p></p><p>And as for the original topic, there's a lot of hostility to 4E on the RPG.Net forums, and this post reeked of it. Everytime someone compares WoW to D&D, a gold farmer is born. So please, leave WoW out of it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xorn, post: 4144090, member: 61231"] Okay, the thing that keeps irking me this whole thread is any mention, in any shape or form, of DDI's GameTable being [i]remotely[/i] worth the cost. Fantasy Grounds II (DM server + [i]six[/i] player clients): $90 USD, one time Fantasy Grounds is awesome and truly FEELS like tabletop (or as close as you can come to it! It's the program my gaming group (scattered all over the country) has been using for a year now! But that's just ONE of the VTTs out there that [i]own[/i]. Battlegrounds RPG is fan-freaking tastic (and a one-time purchase) as is Klooge.Werks, and don't leave out MapTool, which is [b]free[/b]! We've been using VTTs for the last decade--those of us that wanted to--and there's no freaking subscription. Take my $90 FG2 setup and compare it to DDI. Even if my entire gaming group commited to a year of service, we would be paying $70 [i]per month[/i]. After a year we're out $840. [i]Are you kidding me?[/i] But wait! You get a clunky 3D interface with 3D miniatures! [i]Not for $840 USD, you don't--that's [u]extra[/u].[/i] GameTable is going to fall right on it's face and crumble away as long as they stick to this "subscription" based service. It needs to be a standalone product, and if you want the miniatures for everything in the Monster Manual, you buy that virtual mini pack. And maybe, sometime after release, when they are wondering why almost no one is using GameTable, maybe they'll recognize that most people that wanted a VTT already have one--and actually offer them something with VALUE. Because right now I don't even have a [i]consideration[/i] that GameTable will be worth $840 USD per year for my group. When I say that, I wonder if Wizards feels as stupid saying it as I do when I repeat it. And as for the original topic, there's a lot of hostility to 4E on the RPG.Net forums, and this post reeked of it. Everytime someone compares WoW to D&D, a gold farmer is born. So please, leave WoW out of it! [/QUOTE]
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