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<blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4148053" data-attributes="member: 61231">And you make a good point here.&nbsp; I have a big-boy job, I can afford $10 a month.&nbsp; But it stands to be said that I don't go to movies--because I can't stand paying that much money for 2-3 hours and a crabby tub of popcorn.&nbsp; NetFlix takes care of my movie-watching needs. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But the point stands--is $10/month (or even $15) that bad?It's just hard NOT to compare it to my VTT of choice, when I have to convince all my players to pay, too.&nbsp; (Actually I don't have to, and won't, we're very happy with our VTT.)&nbsp; It's hard not to compare the cost to an MMO.&nbsp; I pay $15 a month to play WoW--and I'm happy with what I get out of it.&nbsp; 60-90 hours of play a month, with my fiance and friends.&nbsp; But you're right, with a big-boy job, I could afford to pay for DDI; it's just the principle of the matter.&nbsp; Even if I bought an upgraded VTT every year, I'm paying $15 a year for my VTT, and $120-150 for DDI's VTT, that's basically &quot;rented&quot;.&nbsp; So for me, the question is:Is it worth $105-135 per year for Dungeon, Dragon, and the Rules Database, if every one of my players has to buy it just to get the VTT part?That's the disconnect for me.On this note of astronomical compared costs--a prominent VTT programmer proposed the idea that DDI Gametable could be intended to fail.&nbsp; A far-fetched idea of course, but all we've seen is a few mock-ups for a convention, with almost no information following.&nbsp; And since that time, VTT sales have skyrocketed.&nbsp; I actually think it would be good for DDI's GameTable to fall flat on it's face!&nbsp; A large volume of people waiting for D&amp;D GameTable decided not to wait, and picked up an existing VTT.&nbsp; (My group included.)And even though most people are just waiting (I assume), they now KNOW about their VTT options, because of all the VTT people talking about, &quot;We already play online!&quot;You would have to have balls made of tungsten to make a marketing attempt like that, and while I doubt this is WotC's intent, they have single-handedly driven up VTT sales across the board since their announcement.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xorn, post: 4148053, member: 61231"] And you make a good point here. I have a big-boy job, I can afford $10 a month. But it stands to be said that I don't go to movies--because I can't stand paying that much money for 2-3 hours and a crabby tub of popcorn. NetFlix takes care of my movie-watching needs. :) But the point stands--is $10/month (or even $15) that bad? It's just hard NOT to compare it to my VTT of choice, when I have to convince all my players to pay, too. (Actually I don't [i]have[/i] to, and won't, we're very happy with our VTT.) It's hard not to compare the [i]cost[/i] to an MMO. I pay $15 a month to play WoW--and I'm happy with what I get out of it. 60-90 hours of play a month, with my fiance and friends. But you're right, with a big-boy job, I could afford to pay for DDI; it's just the principle of the matter. Even if I bought an upgraded VTT every year, I'm paying $15 a year for my VTT, and $120-150 for DDI's VTT, that's basically "rented". So for me, the question is: Is it worth $105-135 per year for Dungeon, Dragon, and the Rules Database, if every one of my players has to buy it just to get the VTT part? That's the disconnect for me. On this note of astronomical compared costs--a prominent VTT programmer proposed the idea that DDI Gametable could be [i]intended[/i] to fail. A far-fetched idea of course, but all we've seen is a few mock-ups for a convention, with almost no information following. And since that time, VTT sales have [b]skyrocketed[/b]. I actually think it would be [i]good[/i] for DDI's GameTable to fall flat on it's face! A large volume of people waiting for D&D GameTable decided not to wait, and picked up an existing VTT. (My group included.) And even though most people are just waiting (I assume), they now KNOW about their VTT options, because of all the VTT people talking about, "We already play online!" You would have to have balls made of tungsten to make a marketing attempt like that, and while I doubt this is WotC's intent, they have single-handedly driven up VTT sales across the board since their announcement. [/QUOTE]

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