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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Colmarr" data-source="post: 4102254" data-attributes="member: 59182">Nothing personal helium3, but I'm constantly amazed that people still don't understand how divine challenge works.It doesn't cause damage "unless the enemy attacks you". It causes damage "if the enemy attacks and the targets don't include you".So the following are completely legitimate actions that a creature might take without incurring Divine Challenge damage:1. buffing their allies2. using any healing ability they might have3. make skill checks, even if those checks cause damage (eg. toppling a statue onto a PC)4. use area attacks (eg. breath weapons or spells) so long as the paladin is a target.5. use multi-target attacks (eg. the Ranger daily) so long as the paladin is one of the targets6. use "splash" attacks (such as the wizard's Acid Arrow) so long as the paladin is the main target.7. whistle dixie8. run awayI personally don't see what the furore is about. The paladin can use his mark to cause damage. The fighter can't. The paladin can't physically stop the monsters reaching the wizard. The fighter can. Seems more-or-less fine to me. While there is an obvious synergy in having 2 defenders, I don't see how it's any more of a problem than having two controllers, two strikers or 2 leaders.Edit: Of course, all of the above is based on the "Corrin Reedson" version of Divine Challenge. Who knows what the exact wording of the ability will be after the "errata"...</blockquote>

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