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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4083515" data-attributes="member: 710">The fluff of 4E is something I absolutely love. I could work with the Great Wheel or Greyhawk (and I liked eve parts of them), but the new fluff is different, but in a very good way. The rules so far look very good. But there are still some concerns: - If it didn't even got stronger, the miniature focus certainly wasn't reduced. We're using a battle mat and minis, and it works well for our group. It's not really an issue for us. But if I ever want to make up a new group, it hasn't gotten anything easier with 4E.- I am not seeing the "easy-switch" for classes. Again, to introduce beginners into 4E, it might be harder. "I attack. I hit. I deal x points of damage" is a boring routine in the long run, but I think it helps making it easy for beginners. I am not seeing a class that will make it so easy for first level characters. On the other hand, other games have the same issue. If you demand a first time player to create a Shadowrun character, he will probably be overwhelmed by the options and can easily make bad choices. (What - you didn't put any ranks in Etiqette? Where's your fixer connection? You didn't take Dodge or any firearms skill?)Otherwise, everything looks interesting. I am eager to play the game, so I stay in the pro-4 camp. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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