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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 4085504" data-attributes="member: 29398">For me, nothing's changed.  I started out with some interest in 4e, in vainglorious hopes it'd take the game back to its quirky non-shiny 1e-like roots...obviously, these hopes were soon quashed.  So, I became somewhat anti-, but kept on looking for the silver linings...and found some, only every time I found one, something else would come along and turn it black.The latest example from this past weekend: POSITIVE: We learned that 4e FR is to base its look and feel on that of Roger Dean's artwork.  Wonderful news!  Best thing I'd heard about 4e so far; and if it holds up they've probably just sold me a 4e FR setting book on that basis alone.NEGATIVE: Then we learned that magic item descriptions etc. will be in the PH and not the DMG.  Inconceivably horrible design if you like any mystery in the game; magic items were a prime source of it...but no more, as from here on players will expect to have that information in their grasp *in every future edition*!  Worst thing I've heard about 4e so far, and that's saying something.I remain solid in my belief, however, that 4e will have some nicely poachable ideas for my own game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lanefan</blockquote>