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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 469657" data-attributes="member: 3051">Nothing gets a saving throw if the spell doesn't allow it.  What would the saving throw be for throwing an item off a cliff?  If a person doesn't get a save to avoid the damage, why would an item?Blade Barrier doesn't allow a saving throw unless you started inside the field AND tried to leave immediately.  Neither of those apply here.  Even if you say it started inside the disk, I'd deny the saving throw for the same reason the DMG says you deny someone a Reflex save against Fireballs if there's nothing to duck behind: it just doesn't apply in that particular situation.  Since the item has no way to dodge the blades or leave the field, no saving throw.Regardless, even if it gets a saving throw (and it doesn't), you'd still fail eventually.  The outcome of this scenario really depends on your opinion of whether items are affected by this spell at all.If items aren't affected, then they'll all be fine.  The corpse's clothing will be untouched, the blades going around him without harming his now-deceased body.  Personally this sounds ridiculous to me, but it's easily interpreted this way under the rules.  If I Hold a person inside a Blade Barrier they'd take just enough damage to die (then the blades would leave them alone because they're no longer a creature), but a statue of a person won't even be scratched?If items ARE affected, they're pretty much all toast.  Blade Barrier does a minimum of 11d6 damage per turn for 1100 turns.  Steel has harness 10.  That means even if you roll minimum damage every turn, the item is destroyed after a while.  A magical item has higher hardness and can take more damage, but it'll still be destroyed in the long run.You could argue that it's like Sunder, and therefore you have to beat the enhancement bonus.  Is a Blade Barrier mundane slashing (in which case any DR helps against it) or is it inherently magical slashing (bypassing any DR that isn't X/-)?  Well, is it stopped by Stoneskin in your campaign?  If so, then magical items will survive thanks to their enhancement bonuses.  If not, they're destroyed.</blockquote>

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