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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tzarevitch" data-source="post: 473705" data-attributes="member: 1792">Actually, it speaks to the conditions under which something in the area area of effect takes damage not just when something in the barrier can negate damage. You are using an incredibly narrow reading of what the text says.The description is not quite as direct as most lingering damage spells but it does state the following two conditions that occur wiht regard to interacting with the spell:1. If you are in the area when the blade barrier is invoked, you DO get a save to avoid but only if you "can and do" leave by the quickest possible route.2. If the spell is already there when you enter the area, you "automatically" take damage. The problem with the spell description is that it seems to imply a less than obvious definition of the word "automatically" and it only refers to what happens if you "enter" not what happens when you are still in the area of the spell. You can however easily infer what happens if you remain in the area of the spell from #1 since it is very clear and specific and it defines the only condition under which you receive a save.If you only get a save when you are in the area when; a) the spell is invoked AND; b) you leave the area immediately by the quickest possible route, then if you remain in the area you have not left the area as defined in #1. (unless there is some other specific rule that generates its own special condition like SR). This means that you are NOT entitled to the saving throw that #1 grants (which is the only condition that the spell lists that grants a save). Since the spell has a duration, it has its full effect for its full duration unless some other rule says otherwise. So, if you are stuck in the spell's area, that means you spend multiple rounds subject to the spell's effect without the benefit of a saving throw (since only the very specific conditions of #1 grant one and you cannot comply with those conditions since you cannot move). So yes, if you fail a save against a Hold Person spell in a blade barrier, you'll die a grizzly death. Tzarevitch</blockquote>

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