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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4858354" data-attributes="member: 18280">Funny, but the argument about how unrealistic 4e powers are has been defended regularly with "The DM can disallow power use where it is unrealistic".  LostSoul's post is consistent with this viewpoint; Mallus's is not.  Personally, I'd follow LostSoul's advice, which, while similar to Mallus's, is simply more likely to work in your favour.  Also, it includes drinks.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />Because, if you go the "point out that older editions of D&D aren't much different. A man armed with a dagger can kill a giant, presumably by stabbing it mightily in the foot" route, your DM is likely to point out that that 1e DMG specifically tells the DM not to allow this sort of thing if it seems illogical to him.  In 1e, some weapons simply aren't large enough to affect some foes, and the DM is expected to make that determination.Good luck.RC</blockquote>