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<blockquote data-quote="SiderisAnon" data-source="post: 4972855" data-attributes="member: 44949"><p>If it's five months, you've waited entirely too long. One bad session can be a bad day. At two bad sessions, you have a talk with the player. At a month of bad sessions, they should be out of the game. (Two months at most, if you're really into being a martyr.) People are there to have fun. If someone is hurting that fun, they don't belong.</p><p></p><p>So, my primary suggestion is to tell the player that it's not working out and they are out of the game. Don't get confrontational. Don't let them talk their way back in. Just stand your ground.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For the future, I can offer a bit of advice on some of the issues.</p><p></p><p>If someone refused to learn the rules, you have to question their interest in the game. If they learn the rules for their own character and don't want to learn the rest, that's fine as they know what they need in order to play. If they won't learn the rules for their character, they're going to waste everyone's time over and over. If you allow them to keep playing with you telling them the rule every single time, you're enabling this behavior. If you stop, they will either have to learn or will have to leave the game.</p><p></p><p>On the subject of not paying attention, I have a five second rule at my table. If you can't answer what you're going to do on your turn in under five seconds, you get skipped. I only waive it when something big or unexpected has just happened, like reinforcements just arrived or the target the PC was working on just died a few seconds ago. Even then, I don't give more than a minute or so, because battle is supposed to be fast paced.</p><p></p><p>On the politics and beliefs, I personally wouldn't hang around with someone who said that no one can discuss their beliefs if they don't agree with this person. On the sex talk, I wouldn't tolerate this from one of my friends and I only game with friends. (Both of which boil down to you're probably better off without this person.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>We all go through bad gamers. There are tons of horror stories out there. It's how we learn to deal with the next bad gamer. Sometimes, you can talk to them. Many times, however, you just have to put your foot down when you realize that what they want from the group is not what the group wants.</p><p></p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SiderisAnon, post: 4972855, member: 44949"] If it's five months, you've waited entirely too long. One bad session can be a bad day. At two bad sessions, you have a talk with the player. At a month of bad sessions, they should be out of the game. (Two months at most, if you're really into being a martyr.) People are there to have fun. If someone is hurting that fun, they don't belong. So, my primary suggestion is to tell the player that it's not working out and they are out of the game. Don't get confrontational. Don't let them talk their way back in. Just stand your ground. For the future, I can offer a bit of advice on some of the issues. If someone refused to learn the rules, you have to question their interest in the game. If they learn the rules for their own character and don't want to learn the rest, that's fine as they know what they need in order to play. If they won't learn the rules for their character, they're going to waste everyone's time over and over. If you allow them to keep playing with you telling them the rule every single time, you're enabling this behavior. If you stop, they will either have to learn or will have to leave the game. On the subject of not paying attention, I have a five second rule at my table. If you can't answer what you're going to do on your turn in under five seconds, you get skipped. I only waive it when something big or unexpected has just happened, like reinforcements just arrived or the target the PC was working on just died a few seconds ago. Even then, I don't give more than a minute or so, because battle is supposed to be fast paced. On the politics and beliefs, I personally wouldn't hang around with someone who said that no one can discuss their beliefs if they don't agree with this person. On the sex talk, I wouldn't tolerate this from one of my friends and I only game with friends. (Both of which boil down to you're probably better off without this person.) We all go through bad gamers. There are tons of horror stories out there. It's how we learn to deal with the next bad gamer. Sometimes, you can talk to them. Many times, however, you just have to put your foot down when you realize that what they want from the group is not what the group wants. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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