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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6641580" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Sounds to me like the fundamental attribution error...attributing inappropriate or judgment-worthy behaviors purely to the innate nature of the actor in question, rather than the situations to which the actor has been exposed. And it's even easier to commit such an error when all you have is the emotionally-charged account from someone else who may also be committing that error.Does anyone think it's actually a smart plan to badmouth one of your &quot;friends&quot; (or, at least, one of your players) to other players? I cannot, and will not, defend any of the things Majoru claimed this player did. I don't really, personally, see that as a good defense for Majoru speaking rudely about the player, either. And &quot;pinging my stupid meter&quot;? Really? I don't care how bad a person's behavior is, that sort of thing is throwing gasoline on the fire.It sounds to me like, yes, this &quot;problem player&quot; does in fact have issues playing in Majoru's group. And it may be impossible to overcome these problems. But if you want someone's behavior to improve, don't insult them. Don't do it to their face, don't do it behind their back. If you can't say nothin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. You cannot expect respect if you do not give respect. And it is completely possible to be respectful to someone when they are not at all respectful to you. Majoru did not do that. It came back to bite him later. The whole thing is a clusterf*ck of people not actually treating each other with respect, and (seemingly) finding it difficult or even impossible to speak frankly to each other.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6641580, member: 6790260"] Sounds to me like the fundamental attribution error...attributing inappropriate or judgment-worthy behaviors purely to the innate nature of the actor in question, rather than the situations to which the actor has been exposed. And it's even easier to commit such an error when all you have is the emotionally-charged account from someone else [I]who may also be committing that error.[/I] Does anyone think it's actually a smart plan to badmouth one of your "friends" (or, at least, one of your players) to other players? I cannot, and will not, defend any of the things Majoru claimed this player did. I don't really, personally, see that as a good defense for Majoru speaking rudely about the player, either. And "pinging my stupid meter"? Really? I don't care how bad a person's behavior is, that sort of thing is [I]throwing gasoline on the fire.[/I] It sounds to me like, yes, this "problem player" does in fact have issues playing in Majoru's group. And it may be impossible to overcome these problems. But if you want someone's behavior to improve, [I]don't insult them[/I]. Don't do it to their face, don't do it behind their back. If you can't say nothin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. You cannot [I]expect[/I] respect if you do not [I]give[/I] respect. And it is completely possible to be respectful to someone when they are not at all respectful to you. Majoru did not do that. It came back to bite him later. The whole thing is a clusterf*ck of people not actually treating each other with respect, and (seemingly) finding it difficult or even impossible to speak frankly to each other. [/QUOTE]

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