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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6657400" data-attributes="member: 5143">I agree.  The problem is that there's definitely a spectrum of players and some are only mild and some are off the deep end.  Take some my current group of OP players that come on Tuesday:1. My Roommate - He is a rules lawyer to the nth degree.  He likes to push rules to the breaking point if it helps him make a better character.  He DMs most of the time and feels like people should be playing the game "properly".  His idea of properly is that everyone has all the rules memorized, they never make mistakes, all damage is spread out equally among all of the PCs because they all leap in to take damage for one another, no one takes un-optimal actions, no one has taken un-optimal options during character creation, and no PC ever harms another PC for any reason whatsoever.  Recently, he DMed a table and got very angry at the players because 4 of the players were playing Warlocks who could see in magical darkness and were hiding there.  He had the enemies focus the 2 people who were outside of the darkness extremely hard.  They knocked them unconscious and then proceeded to beat them to demand that the darkness be lowered or they'd kill their friend.  When they didn't lower the darkness in 5 seconds, they immediately killed the unconscious person.  He then gleefully pointed out to the player of the dead character that it was the rest of the player's fault for not taking their proper share of damage and for hiding in darkness.  He feels the situation will resolve itself now since the player whose character died is now firmly blaming the other players and she has yelled at a couple of them.  He feels the other players will learn their lesson and won't do that again.A second person died at that table when one of the warlocks used a blast to push the enemy back.  My roommate said "You know that the enemy won't be able to get within range to attack you next round if you push him back.  But he WILL be within range to attack your unconscious friend over there.  You'll likely kill her."  This is because my roommate feels that having an enemy "waste" their turn by not attacking one round is a cardinal sin that should never be done.  The warlock decided to push the enemy, so my roommate felt completely justified in killing another player's character to make a point.2. Player who doesn't care about story at all.  He spends most of his time on his phone and barely knows what's going on in the game.  He shows up every week without fail, however, and LOVES playing.  He currently plays a character who hits on every woman he meets in game and has made an insinuation that he plans on raping every unconscious woman he's ran into during the game.  He picks them up and starts taking them back to his place before the other PCs have gotten involved and stopped him.  About 5 times now.  His other character is a copy of the League of Legends character Olaf.  He's been super angry with my roommate since in that game mentioned above he ruled that darkvision could see through the darkness created by a spell because the spell didn't specify that the darkness was magical.3. New player.  He insists on roleplaying his character as completely evil and amoral.  He the person who "contributed" to the killing of the second PC at my roommate's table.  He said "I don't owe her anything.  I barely know her.  My character doesn't care about her."  He often refuses to help even fight the bad guys.  One session we found out that his Warlock had picked nearly ALL the invocations because he thought the chart of invocations was cumulative.4. Stealth girl.  She insists on trying to stealth her way past everything.  Even impossible situations.  She once attempted to steal a book from a high ranking member of the wizard's guild while his back was turned in his own office at the top floor of the guild tower.  Then she expected to run for it, make a high stealth check and to get away completely free.  When she realized that she couldn't stealth her way past the guards at the entrance to the tower because she had no cover she got angry.  Also, the wizard chasing her down the stairs yelling "stop that woman! she took my book!" didn't help.  She plays another character who is a "recovering" cannibal.  The character attempts to eat his fellow party members continually.Plus, the guy and his gf that I've been discussing in this thread.There's a couple of other colourful personalities as well.  But everyone has their own issues that make playing with them...interesting.</blockquote>

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