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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6658026" data-attributes="member: 5143">Oh...I agree.&nbsp; So does the player involved.&nbsp; But my roommate was DMing and whenever the rules are &quot;unclear&quot; then the DM can make a ruling.&nbsp; He felt the rules didn't specify.&nbsp; He agrees that the Darkness spell creates magical darkness because it says so.&nbsp; I don't actually know what spell they were arguing about since I was running a game at a nearby table(the one that started this thread where the player blew up and left) and couldn't pay 100% attention to their argument.&nbsp; But he ruled that since that spell didn't say Darkvision couldn't see through it while Darkness specified that it was obviously intended to just magically lower the light levels but not create &quot;magical darkness&quot;.&nbsp; Which allowed the enemies to see fine in it and not have disadvantage.I think my roommate was...in a mood.&nbsp; He seemed to be actively hostile to everything the PCs did that session.&nbsp; He was mad at them for hiding in the darkness, showing up at the table with 4 warlocks, for pushing enemies when it was &quot;obvious&quot; that pushing them would kill an ally, &quot;cheating&quot; by having too many invocations, for using their cell phones at the table instead of paying attention, leaving in the middle of a battle to answer phone calls from their girlfriends, and probably some other things I didn't hear.All I know is that I was glad I wasn't at that table when I heard him yell out &quot;Drop your darkness now or I kill your friend.&nbsp; 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...Ok, she dies&quot; And he counted at about 5 times normal speed.&nbsp; Then during the ride home he was ranting about how he didn't want to kill that PC but they gave him no choice.&nbsp; They were hiding in darkness and wouldn't drop it when the enemy demanded it.&nbsp; So, the other players killed her.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6658026, member: 5143"] Oh...I agree. So does the player involved. But my roommate was DMing and whenever the rules are "unclear" then the DM can make a ruling. He felt the rules didn't specify. He agrees that the Darkness spell creates magical darkness because it says so. I don't actually know what spell they were arguing about since I was running a game at a nearby table(the one that started this thread where the player blew up and left) and couldn't pay 100% attention to their argument. But he ruled that since that spell didn't say Darkvision couldn't see through it while Darkness specified that it was obviously intended to just magically lower the light levels but not create "magical darkness". Which allowed the enemies to see fine in it and not have disadvantage. I think my roommate was...in a mood. He seemed to be actively hostile to everything the PCs did that session. He was mad at them for hiding in the darkness, showing up at the table with 4 warlocks, for pushing enemies when it was "obvious" that pushing them would kill an ally, "cheating" by having too many invocations, for using their cell phones at the table instead of paying attention, leaving in the middle of a battle to answer phone calls from their girlfriends, and probably some other things I didn't hear. All I know is that I was glad I wasn't at that table when I heard him yell out "Drop your darkness now or I kill your friend. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...Ok, she dies" And he counted at about 5 times normal speed. Then during the ride home he was ranting about how he didn't want to kill that PC but they gave him no choice. They were hiding in darkness and wouldn't drop it when the enemy demanded it. So, the other players killed her. [/QUOTE]

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