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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 4884071" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>Why do people keep saying that a DM thinks he's <em>god</em> if he "wings it" while running the game? I've seen a boatload of players that think they're <em>royalty</em> just because they privilege the DM by showing up to a game...they feel they must be catered to at all times. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>It could be that rules are not as important to the DM as storytelling and trying to provide a "fun" game for players.</p><p></p><p>This type of attitude just really disappoints me. It seems like this attitude by players gets worse and worse as the years go by. It's no wonder DMing is so freaking hard to do these days. I've personally met dozens of players with this attitude and it's taken years to finally get a <em>good[/p] compatible group for my table. That player entitlement is just as annoying as the DM quality you guys are calling bad. That player attitude is a sign of a selfish player, and I find selfish players as annoying as DMs that think they are <em>gods</em>. I'm not trying to say your gripes are not legitimate, but just take a step back and think about what you're griping about...I don't think they are serious enough reasons to rip on this DM.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>People are complaining about piddly things here. Things that really aren't going to keep you from playing a cool character. And if these things really are that important to you, all you have to do is not play in that game. And then there's people suggesting that you read the modules and <strong>cheat</strong>? I mean, are you really that pathetic? I would like to think not. You guys are better than that, don't resort to "revenge"...come on. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>If you are overcoming this DMs challenges without having PC deaths on a regular basis, and the adventures are fun & you have fun playing your PC, then why do these rule changes matter? </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>If his rules changes actually make it <em>difficult</em> to play your character, than that's one thing. But if you're complaining just because the rules are different, then I just don't get it. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>If rules lawyering is more important to you than roleplaying a character, then I suggest finding a different game to play, DM a game yourself, or find a different DM. This DM being an old school DM may mean that his approach to playing D&D is completely different than yours. And from experience, I know you aren't going to change him and he's not going to change you. So if you can't deal with it, then stop playing now because this group will implode anyway if you're hanging around. Why waste your time? It's more fun to find a group you are compatible with than playing under a DM that only bugs you. And it's really annoying when a selfish player would rather play to the point that people get angry with each other rather than being an adult and saying, "Hey, I'm just not feeling this game. I think I'm gonna have to bail and try and find a DM that fits more to my style of playing D&D."</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 4884071, member: 18701"] Why do people keep saying that a DM thinks he's [i]god[/i] if he "wings it" while running the game? I've seen a boatload of players that think they're [i]royalty[/i] just because they privilege the DM by showing up to a game...they feel they must be catered to at all times. :erm: It could be that rules are not as important to the DM as storytelling and trying to provide a "fun" game for players. This type of attitude just really disappoints me. It seems like this attitude by players gets worse and worse as the years go by. It's no wonder DMing is so freaking hard to do these days. I've personally met dozens of players with this attitude and it's taken years to finally get a [i]good[/p] compatible group for my table. That player entitlement is just as annoying as the DM quality you guys are calling bad. That player attitude is a sign of a selfish player, and I find selfish players as annoying as DMs that think they are [i]gods[/i]. I'm not trying to say your gripes are not legitimate, but just take a step back and think about what you're griping about...I don't think they are serious enough reasons to rip on this DM. People are complaining about piddly things here. Things that really aren't going to keep you from playing a cool character. And if these things really are that important to you, all you have to do is not play in that game. And then there's people suggesting that you read the modules and [b]cheat[/b]? I mean, are you really that pathetic? I would like to think not. You guys are better than that, don't resort to "revenge"...come on. :confused: If you are overcoming this DMs challenges without having PC deaths on a regular basis, and the adventures are fun & you have fun playing your PC, then why do these rule changes matter? If his rules changes actually make it [i]difficult[/i] to play your character, than that's one thing. But if you're complaining just because the rules are different, then I just don't get it. If rules lawyering is more important to you than roleplaying a character, then I suggest finding a different game to play, DM a game yourself, or find a different DM. This DM being an old school DM may mean that his approach to playing D&D is completely different than yours. And from experience, I know you aren't going to change him and he's not going to change you. So if you can't deal with it, then stop playing now because this group will implode anyway if you're hanging around. Why waste your time? It's more fun to find a group you are compatible with than playing under a DM that only bugs you. And it's really annoying when a selfish player would rather play to the point that people get angry with each other rather than being an adult and saying, "Hey, I'm just not feeling this game. I think I'm gonna have to bail and try and find a DM that fits more to my style of playing D&D."[/i] [/QUOTE]
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