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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6788025" data-attributes="member: 9037">To be honest I think at this point many would rather not play with him. We are a heavy role playing group and it is not that we are opposed to the idea of an ordinary man style hero. But there has to be away to build that without being so lame that you can't contribute at all. Take combat there are plenty of ways to cast defensive spells to help your party or yourself. But he charges in to combat with his wizard hit points to try and go toe to toe with the bad martial  guys just with his fists which  if you don't take the feat for fighting barehanded that is an attack of opportunity so he is usually knocked unconscious pretty quickly leaving the rest of us to deal with the combat and we are small party of four. He says that because his wisdom is only a 10 that is why he doesn't learn that charging in is not a wise thing to do. He falls heavily into Robin Laws method actor. He is all about his character and staying in character. Which is not bad but there are times you need to think about the party too.I know before he joined our group he played with people who placed optimized at all costs over role playing and that has left him rather prickly about anything we say. Like okay how about taking a feat that allows your wizard to fight barehanded without provoking attacks of opportunity. How about casting buffs on yourself how about multi classing with a class with higher hit points. He I think tends to see suggestions like that as powergaming like he used to get from his old group and his resistant to them. My son plays in his old group and I know how they are my son is always teasing me about my lame characters everyone in that group are powergamers and tacticians role playing takes a backseat to that. He was  a poor fit with that group which is why I invited him to play in our group. But he can't seem to fit in our group either we don't mind that he is not Superman but we don't want him to be Joxer the mighty either how about someone in between.</blockquote>

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