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<blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 5595408" data-attributes="member: 56189"><p>Firstly, you need to convey to the players that the world is full of mooks, not heroes. Sure, the library MIGHT have access to the ritual, but who would cast it? Nobody knows how! It's well beyond the capabilities of any of the staff because they're all 1st-level minions (or whatever equivalent there is in your system of choice). Are the PC's going to cast it? They can't either as it's too high a level for them as well.</p><p></p><p>But let's say, for argument's sake, that the library is mysteriously staffed by powerful NPC's. Although, why you'd do that I don't know since it bears no relevance to the fact that it's a library or the story. But let's say it has them anyway. The ritual you're looking for is actually 24th-level (observe creature), not 10th. And it costs 31,000gp to cast. Which is cheaper? Hiring a bunch of wannabe 3rd-level heroes for a few hundred gold, or blowing a 31,000gp ritual? Hell, does the library even HAVE that kind of cash? I doubt it has more than enough resources to keep it's staff fed and the books dry. Whatever money it may have, is probably going to the PC's to get them to find their lost item.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, if it serves the plot, then why the hell not give them access to the scrying ritual? Forget all of what I said above and say, "We have already determined the location of the object. Retrieving, however, is what you're here for... if you don't want the money, don't take the job."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kzach, post: 5595408, member: 56189"] Firstly, you need to convey to the players that the world is full of mooks, not heroes. Sure, the library MIGHT have access to the ritual, but who would cast it? Nobody knows how! It's well beyond the capabilities of any of the staff because they're all 1st-level minions (or whatever equivalent there is in your system of choice). Are the PC's going to cast it? They can't either as it's too high a level for them as well. But let's say, for argument's sake, that the library is mysteriously staffed by powerful NPC's. Although, why you'd do that I don't know since it bears no relevance to the fact that it's a library or the story. But let's say it has them anyway. The ritual you're looking for is actually 24th-level (observe creature), not 10th. And it costs 31,000gp to cast. Which is cheaper? Hiring a bunch of wannabe 3rd-level heroes for a few hundred gold, or blowing a 31,000gp ritual? Hell, does the library even HAVE that kind of cash? I doubt it has more than enough resources to keep it's staff fed and the books dry. Whatever money it may have, is probably going to the PC's to get them to find their lost item. Lastly, if it serves the plot, then why the hell not give them access to the scrying ritual? Forget all of what I said above and say, "We have already determined the location of the object. Retrieving, however, is what you're here for... if you don't want the money, don't take the job." [/QUOTE]
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