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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1392861" data-attributes="member: 5890">What book are those things from? +5/+5/+0 sounds rather high for summon monster I. Compare with other summons...The closest there is is the celestial badger, which gets +4/+4/-1, or if he gets enraged then as much as +6/+6/+0.Compound that with adding the template, and too much becomes WAY too much. When could you add templates to summon creatures at will? It's certainly not one of the standard rules.Beyond that1st roundSummon hawk 1, take 5' step2nd round Hawk 1 appears, takes full attacksummon hawk 23rd roundHawk 1 moves and attacks ONCE (at low level, you'd be a fool to stay next to a creature with 3 attacks)Hawk 2 appears and takes a full attackSummon hawk 34th roundHawk 1 moves, attacks once and dissappearsHawk 2 moves and attacks oncehawk 3 appears and takes a full attacksummon hawk 45th roundHawk 2 moves, attacks once and disappearsHawk 3 moves and attacks onceHawk 4 appears and takes a full attacksummoner attacks onceMaximum attack rolls in a single round: 6 (in round 5)Minimum attack rolls in a single round: 0 (in round 1)Total attack for 4 spells: 18 attacks over 5 rounds, average of 3.6 attacks a round.</blockquote>