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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8222617" data-attributes="member: 58197">One possibility, which may or may not work depending on your optimizer-players: Rather than asking them to tone down their builds, ask them to find builds that synergize with the other PCs.Taking myself as an example: I usually play casters specializing in battlefield control. There's nothing I like better than a fellow player who just wants to hit stuff with a big sword. I'll buff Big Sword Dude till he glows in the dark, clear out the chaff with AoE damage, and watch Big Sword Dude unload on the boss for obscene damage. The monster is super evasive and likes to shoot from a distance? cracks knuckles We can fix that. I'll cast a movement-denial spell, or a teleport spell to put my ally next to the monster. Say hello to Big Sword Dude.The more I optimize my caster, which is what I want to do, the more Big Sword Dude gets to roll dice and announce ridiculous numbers, which is what he wants to do. Everybody wins and has a good time. Except the monsters. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The key for optimizers is not to step on other people's toes. Find a niche, excel in that niche, and let other people have their own niches. This is a much easier pitch than &quot;Just stop optimizing.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 8222617, member: 58197"] One possibility, which may or may not work depending on your optimizer-players: Rather than asking them to tone down their builds, ask them to find builds that synergize with the other PCs. Taking myself as an example: I usually play casters specializing in battlefield control. There's nothing I like better than a fellow player who just wants to hit stuff with a big sword. I'll buff Big Sword Dude till he glows in the dark, clear out the chaff with AoE damage, and watch Big Sword Dude unload on the boss for obscene damage. The monster is super evasive and likes to shoot from a distance? [I]cracks knuckles[/I] We can fix that. I'll cast a movement-denial spell, or a teleport spell to put my ally next to the monster. Say hello to Big Sword Dude. The more I optimize my caster, which is what I want to do, the more Big Sword Dude gets to roll dice and announce ridiculous numbers, which is what [I]he[/I] wants to do. Everybody wins and has a good time. Except the monsters. :) The key for optimizers is not to step on other people's toes. Find a niche, excel in that niche, and let other people have their own niches. This is a much easier pitch than "Just stop optimizing." [/QUOTE]

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