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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8223085" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>It will do no such thing. Sorlock, sorcadin, Sharpshooter/Crossbow Expert, GWM/Polearm Mastery... virtually all of the most OP builds in the game are straight out of the PHB with no supplements at all. The same is true for the most overpowered spells (e.g., <em>hypnotic pattern</em>, <em>simulacrum</em>).</p><p></p><p>Just as in 3E, the worst balance issues in 5E come from the books released earliest in the edition's life cycle: The PHB, DMG, and Monster Manual. The situation is not nearly as extreme as it was back then, but it remains true that splatbooks are not the source of the problem.</p><p></p><p>Banning multiclassing and feats will take care of most of the cheese, but that is a heavy hammer to bring down on the entire group. My preferences would be a few targeted bans and house rules to take care of the worst offenders, combined with steering the optimizers away from other PCs' niches.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 8223085, member: 58197"] It will do no such thing. Sorlock, sorcadin, Sharpshooter/Crossbow Expert, GWM/Polearm Mastery... virtually all of the most OP builds in the game are straight out of the PHB with no supplements at all. The same is true for the most overpowered spells (e.g., [I]hypnotic pattern[/I], [I]simulacrum[/I]). Just as in 3E, the worst balance issues in 5E come from the books released earliest in the edition's life cycle: The PHB, DMG, and Monster Manual. The situation is not nearly as extreme as it was back then, but it remains true that splatbooks are not the source of the problem. Banning multiclassing and feats will take care of most of the cheese, but that is a heavy hammer to bring down on the entire group. My preferences would be a few targeted bans and house rules to take care of the worst offenders, combined with steering the optimizers away from other PCs' niches. [/QUOTE]
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