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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8223445" data-attributes="member: 20564">Look, in a game like D&amp;D where the price of character failure in combat (death) is also a player failure (lack of fun), it's easy for players to conflate character success with player success.&nbsp; It's a rookie mistake that some don't grow out of, and frankly the default reward structure of the game (XP for encounters) reinforces it so it's not really their fault.I know it took time behind the DM screen before I really appreciated that I had the most fun when the party was all around the same level.&nbsp; You get some who are a lot more powerful or a lot less powerful than the others and it doesn't work as well.&nbsp; And combat is the longest mechanical process in the game, so that's a bad place to be out of sync.All of that said, people playing characters who can't hold up their end or mechanically out-shine the others is an out-of-game-world issue - it's not one for the characters to fix in-world, it's one for those around the table to fix.&nbsp; I find it actually pretty sad to discard &quot;why don't you talk to your players&quot;, because that's the only possible solution that will work and still deliver fun to everyone.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8223445, member: 20564"] Look, in a game like D&D where the price of character failure in combat (death) is also a player failure (lack of fun), it's easy for players to conflate character success with player success. It's a rookie mistake that some don't grow out of, and frankly the default reward structure of the game (XP for encounters) reinforces it so it's not really their fault. I know it took time behind the DM screen before I really appreciated that I had the most fun when the party was all around the same level. You get some who are a lot more powerful or a lot less powerful than the others and it doesn't work as well. And combat is the longest mechanical process in the game, so that's a bad place to be out of sync. All of that said, people playing characters who can't hold up their end or mechanically out-shine the others is an out-of-game-world issue - it's not one for the characters to fix in-world, it's one for those around the table to fix. I find it actually pretty sad to discard "why don't you talk to your players", because that's the only possible solution that will work and still deliver fun to everyone. [/QUOTE]

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