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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8224298" data-attributes="member: 18">This is a deeply and unhelpfully misleading simile, which, to be fair is like most similes and metaphors used on the internet.A player who is trash-talking people and crapping on their abilities verbally, and engaging in gambling and fouling other players is obviously a violent and anti-social player. Obviously you'd throw them out. That's not remotely what is going on here.What we're talking about here, based on everything that the OP has said (which I admit is insufficient for many conclusions), is that some proportion of the players are a great deal more skilled at character design than the others. They are not &quot;cheating&quot;. They're not committing &quot;hard fouls&quot;. They're not abusing others. They're not gambling. You literally cannot say that.So a non-misleading simile would be that your group of ball-players had always included a number of players who were massively better than the others. And ball-players is misleading. This is more like target shooting or something. So it's more like you've got some buddies who go out and do some skeet shooting or something, and some of you are pretty casual and don't like the bruises a 12ga can leave so using 16ga and don't want to spend a lot and don't practice or whatever, whereas others are always using 12ga, are practicing heavily, maybe have carefully balanced and extremely well-made guns and so on. The others are drinking beer but these guys are slamming caffeine only as they don't want miss. But IRL, stuff like that often remains fun. I mean, when I go bowling, I'm naughty word terrible, and I have friends who are great. I don't get mad.And the guy who is getting mad here is not even among the shooters, AFAICT. It's the guy who is running the clay-pigeon-throwing-machine (I dunno the right words for this). Or the guy running the bowling alley is mad because half of the people in a group are doing really crap half are going gangbusters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8224298, member: 18"] This is a deeply and unhelpfully misleading simile, which, to be fair is like most similes and metaphors used on the internet. A player who is trash-talking people and crapping on their abilities verbally, and engaging in gambling and fouling other players is obviously a violent and anti-social player. Obviously you'd throw them out. That's not remotely what is going on here. What we're talking about here, [B]based on everything that the OP has said[/B] (which I admit is insufficient for many conclusions), is that some proportion of the players are a great deal more skilled at character design than the others. They are not "cheating". They're not committing "hard fouls". They're not abusing others. They're not gambling. You literally cannot say that. So a non-misleading simile would be that your group of ball-players had always included a number of players who were massively better than the others. And ball-players is misleading. This is more like target shooting or something. So it's more like you've got some buddies who go out and do some skeet shooting or something, and some of you are pretty casual and don't like the bruises a 12ga can leave so using 16ga and don't want to spend a lot and don't practice or whatever, whereas others are always using 12ga, are practicing heavily, maybe have carefully balanced and extremely well-made guns and so on. The others are drinking beer but these guys are slamming caffeine only as they don't want miss. But IRL, stuff like that often remains fun. I mean, when I go bowling, I'm naughty word terrible, and I have friends who are great. I don't get mad. And the guy who is getting mad here is not even among the shooters, AFAICT. It's the guy who is running the clay-pigeon-throwing-machine (I dunno the right words for this). Or the guy running the bowling alley is mad because half of the people in a group are doing really crap half are going gangbusters. [/QUOTE]

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