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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8224299" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>I have a tier 3 character whose AC sits at 24 and I'm frequently hasted to bring that up to 26. I can bump that to 31 with a shield spell or sometimes effectively higher with d8 cutting words against a single attack. All this has really meant in play is that, given the choice, the DM will just attack someone else since I have no means to force him to attack me. I'm also weak on Dex saves and took quite a lot of AOE to the face. When I do take a hit from an attack, it's usually a crit for big damage.</p><p></p><p>While I don't have to worry about being hit in many fights, there are still plenty of fights where I'm worried about how to avoid breath weapons (for example). My damage also isn't as great as others except on crits. So ultimately, the DM can still threaten me meaningfully and I had to take some tradeoffs for my high defense. I've seen this same thing play out with several similar character builds in various campaigns. It's really been no issue at the table.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 8224299, member: 97077"] I have a tier 3 character whose AC sits at 24 and I'm frequently hasted to bring that up to 26. I can bump that to 31 with a shield spell or sometimes effectively higher with d8 cutting words against a single attack. All this has really meant in play is that, given the choice, the DM will just attack someone else since I have no means to force him to attack me. I'm also weak on Dex saves and took quite a lot of AOE to the face. When I do take a hit from an attack, it's usually a crit for big damage. While I don't have to worry about being hit in many fights, there are still plenty of fights where I'm worried about how to avoid breath weapons (for example). My damage also isn't as great as others except on crits. So ultimately, the DM can still threaten me meaningfully and I had to take some tradeoffs for my high defense. I've seen this same thing play out with several similar character builds in various campaigns. It's really been no issue at the table. [/QUOTE]
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