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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8224343" data-attributes="member: 58197">&quot;Optimizer&quot; &lt;-- Not the problem.&quot;Dunking on and naughty word talking the non-optimizers&quot; &lt;-- The problem.This is why people have been asking for specifics. The focus on &quot;optimizers&quot; in your initial post led to a long conversation which has just been shown to be wholly irrelevant. If these guys quit optimizing, but continued to dunk on and naughty word talk the other players, you would still have a problem.For instance, my own earlier advice (about encouraging optimizers to not step on other players' toes) won't help you, because these guys enjoy stepping on other people's toes. If you don't want to just boot them--which you would be justified in doing--my advice would be to address the specific behavior. Take them aside when they do it and say &quot;You're doing that again,&quot; so they get clear and immediate feedback on what the problem is.It's possible they will get the idea and shape up. It's also possible that they will brush you off and continue to behave like jerks. In the latter case, there are only two options left: Boot them, or live with it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 8224343, member: 58197"] "Optimizer" <-- Not the problem. "Dunking on and naughty word talking the non-optimizers" <-- The problem. This is why people have been asking for specifics. The focus on "optimizers" in your initial post led to a long conversation which has just been shown to be wholly irrelevant. If these guys quit optimizing, but continued to dunk on and naughty word talk the other players, you would still have a problem. For instance, my own earlier advice (about encouraging optimizers to not step on other players' toes) won't help you, because these guys [I]enjoy[/I] stepping on other people's toes. If you don't want to just boot them--which you would be justified in doing--my advice would be to address the specific behavior. Take them aside when they do it and say "You're doing that again," so they get clear and immediate feedback on what the problem is. It's possible they will get the idea and shape up. It's also possible that they will brush you off and continue to behave like jerks. In the latter case, there are only two options left: Boot them, or live with it. [/QUOTE]

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