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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8224351" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>I am not sure what divine sheild is, do you mean shield of faith? If so, I don't find this overpowering at all. For several reasons</p><p></p><p>To start with, very few games I have DMed, played or seen published by WOTC are going to have PCs afford plate at level 3. In one of the two WOTC campaigns I am playing now my Wizard2/Rogue1 does not even have enough $$$ for studded leather at level 3. A level 3 sorcadin is going to have 3 spells he can cast in an entire day, shield of faith and shield are two of those and shield of faith only lasts 10 minutes. With these two things considered, this is more of a level 5 concern than a level 3 concern IMO.</p><p></p><p>At level 5 it is a good combination, but even there I do not think it is gamebreaking. You are using concentration to get a very high AC, but enemies can still penetrate it with a critical and use things like help to get a better chance at it. With 8 battles a day your level 3/2 Sorc/adin can cast cast shield of faith in 7 of them and have absolutely nothing for smites, shield spell or offensive spells. If you cash in all your sorcery points you can get SOF in that 8th battle and use 1 shield, smite or other spell some time during the day. You also are not doing top tier damage with your weapon as it is one handed. Finally unless you took warcaster feat you can't cast shield unless you divest yourself of your weapon every turn. This is going to mean dropping it on the floor every turn, where the enemy will probably pick it up as his free action after you do that a few times.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8224351, member: 6855259"] I am not sure what divine sheild is, do you mean shield of faith? If so, I don't find this overpowering at all. For several reasons To start with, very few games I have DMed, played or seen published by WOTC are going to have PCs afford plate at level 3. In one of the two WOTC campaigns I am playing now my Wizard2/Rogue1 does not even have enough $$$ for studded leather at level 3. A level 3 sorcadin is going to have 3 spells he can cast in an entire day, shield of faith and shield are two of those and shield of faith only lasts 10 minutes. With these two things considered, this is more of a level 5 concern than a level 3 concern IMO. At level 5 it is a good combination, but even there I do not think it is gamebreaking. You are using concentration to get a very high AC, but enemies can still penetrate it with a critical and use things like help to get a better chance at it. With 8 battles a day your level 3/2 Sorc/adin can cast cast shield of faith in 7 of them and have absolutely nothing for smites, shield spell or offensive spells. If you cash in all your sorcery points you can get SOF in that 8th battle and use 1 shield, smite or other spell some time during the day. You also are not doing top tier damage with your weapon as it is one handed. Finally unless you took warcaster feat you can't cast shield unless you divest yourself of your weapon every turn. This is going to mean dropping it on the floor every turn, where the enemy will probably pick it up as his free action after you do that a few times. [/QUOTE]
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