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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 8225518" data-attributes="member: 6804070">I agree with a better understanding of the problem, but I don't think the problem is so much about the PC build and what awesome combos it can do, what it's DPR is or any other aspect about the character.Player problems are about the players. Why does the player insist on such a character? Do they understand how their play affects others at the table? Do they feel they game can be won? Do they see each gaming session as a set of challenges to overcome/win? Are they really looking to play a superhero game where the superheroes always win? Can they, or would they appreciate nuance and having a character be forced to chose between two bad options? Are they willing to explore social/personal challenges of their characters that maybe can't be 'won'?Those, to me, are the types of details that can help solve the problem. Not what race/class/build the character is as addressing that is simple nerfing one build, and there are always other builds that can be optimized.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 8225518, member: 6804070"] I agree with a better understanding of the problem, but I don't think the problem is so much about the PC build and what awesome combos it can do, what it's DPR is or any other aspect about the character. Player problems are about the players. Why does the player insist on such a character? Do they understand how their play affects others at the table? Do they feel they game can be won? Do they see each gaming session as a set of challenges to overcome/win? Are they really looking to play a superhero game where the superheroes always win? Can they, or would they appreciate nuance and having a character be forced to chose between two bad options? Are they willing to explore social/personal challenges of their characters that maybe can't be 'won'? Those, to me, are the types of details that can help solve the problem. Not what race/class/build the character is as addressing that is simple nerfing one build, and there are always other builds that can be optimized. [/QUOTE]

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