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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8225997" data-attributes="member: 205">You realize virtually every post on this thread has blamed the players and told you that you shouldn't play with them, right?  What more of an indictment do you want?You can't make people change.  You don't want to change (which is totally fine).  What other options do you have beyond either not playing with them, or playing with them and being unhappy?The total number of solutions where they stop playing they want and start playing the way the rest of the table wants is zero.</blockquote>