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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8226507" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>I think the real issue in your example is that the ranger's player has the wrong expectations. I play a beast master ranger, for example. I do decent enough damage, just not as much as the barbarian in my group. But when it's time to travel to our next destination, everyone absolutely looks to me to make sure the party travels swiftly, doesn't get lost, and is aware of what kinds what monsters we might face ahead so they can prepare. He's better at combat. I'm better at exploration. The bard in the group is better at social.</p><p></p><p>In the hexcrawl campaign that I run, the ranger in the group won't make the session tonight. The party has been fretting at his absence all week in Discord. Not because he's great in combat, but because they know they will likely get lost and, due to events that have arisen organically during play, they really can't afford a lot of wandering around right now, nor fighting a lot of monsters despite the combat ability of some in the group. In this case, they really need someone good at exploration and they don't have it.</p><p></p><p>If, however, two PCs who are actually supposed to be capable in combat have a big disparity, to your point, this can be a problem of sharing the spotlight. I don't tend to care about this as a player though because I put the party first and a teammate who is better than me in certain areas - even areas I try to be good in - helps everyone. Granted not every player sees things this way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 8226507, member: 97077"] I think the real issue in your example is that the ranger's player has the wrong expectations. I play a beast master ranger, for example. I do decent enough damage, just not as much as the barbarian in my group. But when it's time to travel to our next destination, everyone absolutely looks to me to make sure the party travels swiftly, doesn't get lost, and is aware of what kinds what monsters we might face ahead so they can prepare. He's better at combat. I'm better at exploration. The bard in the group is better at social. In the hexcrawl campaign that I run, the ranger in the group won't make the session tonight. The party has been fretting at his absence all week in Discord. Not because he's great in combat, but because they know they will likely get lost and, due to events that have arisen organically during play, they really can't afford a lot of wandering around right now, nor fighting a lot of monsters despite the combat ability of some in the group. In this case, they really need someone good at exploration and they don't have it. If, however, two PCs who are actually supposed to be capable in combat have a big disparity, to your point, this can be a problem of sharing the spotlight. I don't tend to care about this as a player though because I put the party first and a teammate who is better than me in certain areas - even areas I try to be good in - helps everyone. Granted not every player sees things this way. [/QUOTE]
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