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<blockquote data-quote="Non-Proficient" data-source="post: 8227413" data-attributes="member: 7030127">A young man in our games, fresh out of high school, was like this- heck even got their tablet out and PLAYED video games when any non-combat pillar of play was in the spotlight (that wouldn't fly at my table, but it wasn't my table) but let's be honest, while immature and inexperienced players instincts can be grating, most of these kids steep themselves in video games for the vast majority of their free time. Is it that weird to you that these folks bring that baggage with them to the game?If you are blessed to have a stable group of mature RP types at your table, great, relish it. Otherwise, you have to be accepting that players come at this pastime with completely different outlooks and without even bothering to buy their own books at times (I had a bad printing of the PHB that Wizards sent me a replacement for, and so I offered to sell it to this kid for $5. Nope. He was able to get by bumming table copies for free --mostly mine, the very one on offer-- it had odd faint ink marks smeared all over the Feats section (and not even the good ones!). Owning a copy wasn't a high-priority purchase compared to tabletop miniatures &amp; DLC for his 'puter games. I would have given it to him if he'd been willing to pony up the dough, but spider senses telling me he was only wanting to mooch proved correct).He reliably showed up to politely play in our games though and was not going to be long before he was to be whisked away for military or guard or something, so... &lt;shrug&gt; But yeah, some people have unfortunately been conditioned with desires to be at the top of a non-existent combat leaderboard for vanity reasons. But Weird? In the current year?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Non-Proficient, post: 8227413, member: 7030127"] A young man in our games, fresh out of high school, was like this- heck even got their tablet out and PLAYED video games when any non-combat pillar of play was in the spotlight (that wouldn't fly at my table, but it wasn't my table) but let's be honest, while immature and inexperienced players instincts can be grating, most of these kids steep themselves in video games for the vast majority of their free time. Is it that weird to you that these folks bring that baggage with them to the game? If you are blessed to have a stable group of mature RP types at your table, great, relish it. Otherwise, you have to be accepting that players come at this pastime with completely different outlooks and without even bothering to buy their own books at times (I had a bad printing of the PHB that Wizards sent me a replacement for, and so I offered to sell it to this kid for $5. Nope. He was able to get by bumming table copies for free --mostly mine, the very one on offer-- it had odd faint ink marks smeared all over the Feats section (and not even the good ones!). Owning a copy wasn't a high-priority purchase compared to tabletop miniatures & DLC for his 'puter games. I would have given it to him if he'd been willing to pony up the dough, but spider senses telling me he was only wanting to mooch proved correct). He reliably showed up to politely play in our games though and was not going to be long before he was to be whisked away for military or guard or something, so... <shrug> But yeah, some people have unfortunately been conditioned with desires to be at the top of a non-existent combat leaderboard for vanity reasons. But Weird? In the current year? [/QUOTE]

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