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<blockquote data-quote="Redwizard007" data-source="post: 8228484" data-attributes="member: 7024098">I came here to say this. I've never seen an optimized build that didn't have weaknesses. That doesn't mean that you attack only their weaknesses, but any encounter with prepared sentient beings should be run intelligently. Untouchable AC? Make a saving throw.DPR machine? Isolated via wall spell/trap/enemy forces.Lockdown caster? Spread out and have ranged options.Play your NPCs like PCs and things get a lot more interesting. Better yet, you can switch this up to give the optimizers a chance to show off or bite off more than they can handle. Oops. Looks like they isolated the tank with a horde of hobgoblins. Now he gets to shrug off attack after attack. Until the hobs begin to surround him... The DPR fella might be hacking through chumps with a smile on his face, but that means he's out of position when the enemy glass cannon teleports next to the party wizard... Count lockdown has everything in hand when a second wave appears, or the enemy can force PCs into the area of the spell. Now what?DMing for optimized PCs let's you take the gloves off. Sometimes it means the PCs don't survive, but that's just a new opportunity for them to optimize something different. Don't be afraid to fight fire with fire. I'm available for advice on encounter design if you have specific PCs that are giving you trouble. DM me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Redwizard007, post: 8228484, member: 7024098"] I came here to say this. I've never seen an optimized build that didn't have weaknesses. That doesn't mean that you attack only their weaknesses, but any encounter with prepared sentient beings should be run intelligently. Untouchable AC? Make a saving throw. DPR machine? Isolated via wall spell/trap/enemy forces. Lockdown caster? Spread out and have ranged options. Play your NPCs like PCs and things get a lot more interesting. Better yet, you can switch this up to give the optimizers a chance to show off or bite off more than they can handle. Oops. Looks like they isolated the tank with a horde of hobgoblins. Now he gets to shrug off attack after attack. Until the hobs begin to surround him... The DPR fella might be hacking through chumps with a smile on his face, but that means he's out of position when the enemy glass cannon teleports next to the party wizard... Count lockdown has everything in hand when a second wave appears, or the enemy can force PCs into the area of the spell. Now what? DMing for optimized PCs let's you take the gloves off. Sometimes it means the PCs don't survive, but that's just a new opportunity for them to optimize something different. Don't be afraid to fight fire with fire. I'm available for advice on encounter design if you have specific PCs that are giving you trouble. DM me. [/QUOTE]

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